What is Iago's underline issue with Othello? Why? Iago doesn't like the fact that Othello placed someone else as his lieutenant besides Iago. Iago was declared the servant instead. Cassio took the title as Othello's lieutenant and Iago seems to be jealous. Iago even goes on to say that he has more experience in the war field then Cassio. In an excerpt from the text it states, " That never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle ...and I, of whom his eyes had seen the proof" (Act 1, Scene 1). Iago claims he knows more and now despised Othello for his decision. In addition, Iago is trying to now make Othello a target and plot against him by talking to others who aren't fans of Othello. Overall, Iago is upset and envious over Cassio's position over his and now wants to seek revenge of Othello.
The tone in this scene is very serious or a betrayal tone. This is shown many times throughout the novel from many different characters such as Iago and Roderigo specifically. This is because the fact of what is being said from both of these characters mouths. In the text it states."That thou, Iago, who hast my purse as if strings were thine, shouldst know of this"(lines 2-3). This shows how this is the tone of betrayal because of how Roderigo and Iago are suppose to be close but Roderigo is threatening to tell on Iago to Othello.
Summarize what are they actually saying in your own words before introducing the quote. That is a stronger intro than "what they are saying" which is vague. 13/15
Iago feels betrayed, what could he be intending to do?
Iago strikes me as the type to sabotage any who stand in his way towards achieving the rank of lieutenant. He may be intending to eliminate and/or remove Othello from his position. He may try to convince others that Othello is a risk and that second-thoughts should be held towards him. Iago for a fact wants something, and should be viewed as a protagonist from here on out. "I am worth no worse a place" seems very negative. This man has bad intentions.
Do you think Iago plans to tell King about his daughter's relationship will ruin them?
Iago's plan to tell King about his daughter's relationship will not ruin them. Desdemona has already eloped Othello and her father can not force them to divorce assuming that her father's word means nothing compared to love. Iago plans to " follow [Othello] to serve [his] turn upon him" (line 45) and telling Desdemona secret could only be the start of a lager plan of destruction. You can infer this because Iago is angry because he was not given the lieutenancy he wanted. Lieutenancy gives you power and in order contain such you have take out who holds the current power.
I disagree with you destiny because i believe it will ruin them. I think it will ruin them because lago convinces Brabantio that his kids will look like animals. William states, " you'll have your nephews neigh to you, you'll have coursers for cousins and jennets for germans" (shakesphere 15). This makes Barbantio upset and he starts to further question does he want to interfere. I think he is going to want to stop this marriage and make them get a divorce. He doesnt want "animals" as family. If he has animals as family that would be seen as an embrassment. So he is going to say something to his daughter. And end their marriage for the sake of the family.
What do you predict will happen to between Iago and Othello or Cassio?
From reading the introduction to Othello, I predict that Iago will attempt to kill Cassio. Often, when people are overcome with hate and envy, they commit heinous acts to substitute for anger. Because Iago is overwhelmed with hatred and anger of Othello’s picking Cassio as his ancient, Iago will devise a plan to slake his envy. While talking to Roderigo, Iago espouses his hatred for Othello because he was not selected for the position: “ I follow him to serve my turn upon him… In following him I follow but myself” (11). Iago proclaims that he will not follow Othello with loyalty and subservience, but he will follow him to meet the needs of his own desires! Maybe Iago will follow Othello closely in order to overthrow him; he plans to kill Othello and Cassio as an act of vengeance. Therefore, Iago will follow Othello only to kill him and retrieve the throne.
Iago's plan is to be the air of Othello. Iago plans that after Othello has his term, he will be next behind him. Iago has so much hate toward Othello and whenever his term comes to an end he will be next in line. In this quote, it tells exactly what Iago plan is regarding Othello. It states, " I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (Othello 7). Iago hates Othello but the only reason why he still follows him because he wishes to be him one day. Because Othello did not make Iago Lieutenant, made Iago hate him. Since Iago hates Othello, made him want to be him one day. Therefore, Iago's plan is to be the air of Othello.
You should explain more clearly how "serve my turn upon him" means take his place. You don't analyze the line enough to prove that interpretation. 13/15
How do you think Brabantio would act after Iago told him about Othello and his daughter?
I think that Brabantio would be furious because this is something that he did not know. Iago's hate for Othello caused him to tell Brabantio about his daughter. First of all no parent wants to hear that his daughter is having sexual relations with someone else. In this quote, it tell what Iago told Brabantio about his daughter and Othello. It says, "You have lost half your soul. Even now , now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe" (Othello 13). First this is really rude to say to a father. Iago just wants everyone to hate Othello just as much he does. Because Iago told Brabantio that his daughter was having relations with Othello, made him furious. Therefore, Brabantio would be upset that Iago told him that his daughter is having sex with Othello.
Is this really a prediction or is it an obvious explanation of the text? Push yourself to make more analytical predictions or statements about the text (assertions that can actually be argued as opposed to things that are correct but obvious). This is a skill you will need for AP next year. 13/15
Do you think that Brabantio will hate Othello for secretly getting married to his daughter? In my opinion, Brabantio will not hate Othello for secretly getting married to Desdemona because in my opinion Othello isn't unfit for Desdemona because Othello is a very noble person. Being that Othello is General of the Venetian Army, I think that Brabantio will be proud to see that his daughter is married to someone of such power. However, I think that her father and mother will be sad that they weren't able to be there and have an actual wedding with their daughter. In the text it states " In personal suit to make me his lieutenant, off-capped to him" This quote proves that Othello has the power and authority to pick who he thinks deserves the job. That kind of power makes him completely noble and powerful, more powerful then the king himself.
Why does Iago believe he should be lieutenant? Iago believes that he is most fit to be the lieutenant of the Venetian army due to his success on the battlefield at times of war. He refers to a time when he did good in battle as proof as to why he should be the lieutenant instead of Othello. "At Rhodes, at Cyprus, and on (other) grounds Christened and heathen, must be beleed and calmed" (9). Iago is trying to impress his audience by pointing out his success at previous battles at Rhodes and at Cyprus. Even though Iago is proving himself to be a good candidate, it is to no avail as Othello is still chosen. "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place" (7). Iago strongly believes that he is the right choice for the lieutenancy and should be appointed as such. Iago believes he is the right person to be lieutenant due to his previous success in battle.
I agree with Naheem's point about why Iago believed he should be Lieutenant , but to add on Iago thought he was better than Othello. To make his point he started throwing racial slurs and throwing Othello under the bus. According to Iago, "that never set a squadron in the field , nor the division of a battle knows"(9). Basically saying that Othello isn't right for the spot because he's all talk and doesn't have any experience.
Why does iago say on page 9 that"we cannot all be masters, nor all masters cannot be truly followed" ? Iago makes this statement stated on page 9 because he doesn't truly follow othello and ddoesn't believe he should be in command. In the beginning of the act, iago and roderigo are discussing their hate for othello. This conversation includes iago discussing his disapproval in othello's choice to make cassio His general instead of him. Iago states that"i follow him to serve my turn upon him"(9). Iago doesnt believe that othello has made the right choice in picking his general and as a result iago wants to continue showing favor and love to othello until the right moment when iago can strike him of his power and be in control. Iago believes that othello is an unfit leader and thinks he should be stepped down as a result .
I agree because also in the text iago places himself above othello as a master and leader. In the act when continuing the conversation about iago's hate for the decision othello made about his general iago states that"in following him,i follow but myself"(11).making it clear to readers that he's following othello, but in reality he's following his own self and his own judgements. Othello maybe the head now, but in the end he shall be the tail if iago has anything to do with it.
This is a little confusing -- are you agreeing with yourself? In either care, your analysis of Iago thinking he is better than Othello is interesting and probably accurate. 14/15
What does IAGO mean when he says "Thought I do hate him as I do hell (pains,) Yet, for necessity of present life, I must show out a flag and sign of love-Which is indeed but sign." ?
In my opinion, after Iago stirred up trouble with Othello and Brabantio he feels like he shouldn't be around when Desdemona's father general confronts Othello. Even though Iago hates Othello he has to pretend he love him as in he needs to keep his enemy's close because Iago uses war to describe his relationship with Othello he'll "show out a flag" as a sign of his loyalty. It's like he's trying wave a peace sign to Othello when all he really want to do is attack his enemy which would be Othello. So in order to further his plans he much have Othello's trust and love.
What kind of person is Iago ? Iago is an opportunist. He uses people for his own benefit which will get him what he wants. In this scene Iago is taking advantage of Roderigo. Iago says, "I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (9). Iago persuades Roderigo help him by confessing that he wants to gain higher status. The conversation between Iago and Roderigo shows that Iago pretends to be loyal to Othello only because it will benefit him.
Your explanation of the quote is a little confusing -- it sounds as if you're talking about Iago following Roderigo (when he's referring to Othello in that scene). 13/15
Why is Roderigo upset? Roderigo is upset because he feels that he put his trust into Iago, and he deceived him. Roderigo stress the fact that he has given Iago money to show how much he put his faith in him but refuses to listen to Iago's reasoning for his actions. Roderigo says "thou toldst me thou didst hold him in thy hate."(7) Roderigo doesn't wish to agree with Iago and feel that them not being on the same side is not a good thing. Roderigo refuses to praise Othello ,even though he has trust for Iago, he still decides to go against his friend's plan.
What do they disagree about? This response is missing some important context. Not on the same side of what? This response seems confused about the basic events of the scene. 11/15
What does he mean when he says, "You have lost half your soul. Even now , now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe"? What does he compare Desdemona and Othello to?
They are telling Brabantio that his daughter, "half his soul", has been taken by Othello, "black ewe". The quote above means that Othello is out preying on his daughter. In this scene, Othello and Desdemona are compared to sheep in this scene and it says that then together will produce a beast.
What is one important idea that comes up in the first few pages?
One important idea that appears in the first few pages is the importance of fondness in the military. The characters put an emphasis on power being connected to favoritism. Iago says to Roderigo, "Preferment goes by letter and affection, and not by old gradation, where each second stood heir to th' first" (9). This line is saying that positions seem to be given to those who are more liked rather than those who have more skills. This conversation shows us how personalities are valuable in the military because those who are well-liked will always get priority, over those least-liked, for jobs.
Why do Roderigo not want Othello to marry Barbantio's daughter ?
Roderigo don't want Othello to marry the daughter because he wants her for himself. Roderigo trys to make it seem like he just want to help Barbantio stop this black monster from taking advantage of his daughter. Roderigo says to Barbantio, "If this be known to you, and your allowance, We then have done you bold and saucy wrongs" (15). This shows how Roderigo does whatever it takes to stop Othello from marrying the daughter, so he could make his move and convince Barbantio to let him marry her. Iago makes it seem like Othello is bad for the daughter and should marry her because it like shame the family, and he could them make the move to marry her.
Your quote doesn't exactly match your assertion that Roderigo will do whatever it takes. In this quote he is saying that if Brabantio knows about the marriage, then he would leave them alone. 13/15
Do you think that Iago and Rodrigo show us the feeling of Jealousy toward's Othello through their actions?
In the text Iago is not given the opportunity to become lieutenant and Rodrigo's woman has been taken by Othello, so because of this Iago and Rodrigo do convey their Jealousy by trying to persuade Branbantio that Othello has his daughter, and use ugly descriptions to persuade him. In the text Iago and Rodrigo plead to Branbantio to listen to their summons, and use racial descriptions to make it more intriguing, " an old black ram is tupping your white ewe, Arise, arise!"(13). It seems like through the testimony of Rodrigo he has developed Jealousy toward's Othello, and so has Iago who was standing next to him making his own decree. This shows Jealousy toward's Othello because he has a beautiful woman, and has the choice of making powerful decisions on who leads the battlefield.
How do the characters try to turn other characters against Othello?
Roderick tries to turn Brabantio against Othello by informing Brabantio that Othello is on a date with Brabantio's daughter. Roderigo does not like Othello, but he likes Brabantio's daughter. Roderigo tries to get Brabantio to not like Othello, also, so he tells Brabantio about their date. He says, "Your fair daughter, at this odd-even time o' th' night, transported with no worse nor better guard but with a knave of common hire, a gondolier, to the gross clasps of a lascivious Moor: if this be known to you, and your allowance" (137). Roderigo tells Brabantio about his daughter dating Othello. Knowing that Brabantio will not approve of anyone dating his daughter, Roderigo tells him that Othello is dating his daughter. Now that Brabantio knows that Othello is dating his daughter, he will most-likely not like Othello. This is part of Roderigo's plan to get more people to nit like Othello.
Who's Roderick? Chavis? He's in this play?!? They are more than on a date -- they've run off and gotten married in secret. Response is somewhat confused. Proofread. 12/15
How do you think race will play a role in this book ? I think think that the plot of this book will be centered around the fact that othello is of a darker pigment then the other men in this book and how they hate him because of this. On the first page roderigo says " Thou toldest me thou didst hold him in thy hate". In short he is asking iago i thought u hated othello too , it is not made clear why he asked him this or why he hates othello. All we know is that othello is a black man and is of a higher rank then them, so a assume that is why they feel hate for him because they feel like he is some one who should be lower then them.
Racism plays a role in this book where Iago continuously talks about Othello because he is an African from the north. Iago is Othello's assistant and is upset because he feel like Othello should have chosen him for a higher position. In order to get back at Othello, Iago decided to make up a lie saying that Othello was messing with Brabantio's daughter. It was not common for people to have interracial relationships and Iago know Othello would be in trouble if its true. However, Iago ran to Brabantio saying, "you'll have your daughter covered with a Babary horse, you'll have your nephews neigh to you" (15). Iago was making racist comments about Othello saying how he's a horse, but more of an animal. Iago plan is to make Brabantio believe him so he could have people go after Othello and arrest him. Brabantio doesn't approve of Othello because he's a black and ends up believing Iago. This will cause Barbantio to not like Othello and possibly loose his position if things get worse.
I disagree , I dont think that race will play much of a role in the grand sceem of things. I think that the plot will focus around the fact that iago was appointed othellos assistent and not the possition he wanted. Iago says " I follow him to serve my turn upon him " which shows that his goal of gaining power triumphs over racesism because roderigo, who truly hates othello , refuses to even follow him.
What might be a reason that Brabantio doesn't want his daughter with Othello?
Brabantio might not want his daughter with Othello because it would make him look bad. Othello race and character stands out from others within the book. With Othello being involved with Brabantio daughter, it would make Brabantio look down upon by the people in his society. When Iago came to make Brabantio aware about his daughters marriage with Othello he states" you'll have your daughter covered with a Babary horse, you'll have your nephews neigh to you"(15). Othello is being called a black horse from African and being talked down upon by Iago. Many men in this society feel the same way about Othello and if Brabantio allows his daughter to be with someone like this, then he too will be looked down upon. Because of this, Brabantio does not want his daughter with Othello because it would make him look bad.
Why does Iago Work for Othello if he doesn't like him?
Iago continues to work for Othello even though he doesn't like him because he wants to over throw him and be powerful. He's only working for Othello for his own benefits in life. He acts as if he likes him so no one, not even Othello, will have a clue of what he's doing. In the book Iago says, "I follow him to serve my turn upon him"(line 45). He's waiting until Othello sees his loyalty to him so that he can stop his power and help himself.
Kristina Why do you think its an issue for Othello and Desdemona to be together?
Just from reading scene one you can get the idea that it is a problem for them, but only because of race. When Iago wants to get revenge on Othello, he runs to Desdemonia father and tells him that she is with him. In scene one it tells it saying, " An old black ram is tupping your white ewe". When Iago says this hes basically saying that a black man has taken you white daughter and they are together. By him saying that its showing how race plays a role because they obviously don't want whites and blacks together.
Why do you think it is such an issue for Iago that he was replaced by someone else to work for Othello ?
The clear issue that Iago has with someone else working for Othello is that he feels that he has worked hard for that spot and only to be seen as an assistant is very patronizing to him. He feels that the guy Cassio is under-qualified and un-deservant of the position Othello has bestow upon him. In the text it states ",a great arithmetician , one Michael cassio, a Florentine... never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of battle knows more than a spinister"(9). Clearly Iago expresses his feelings in stating that he is more qualified for the job because he is actually military trained and can protect, also that Cassio has never step foot on a military base nor does he know anything about military living , therefore can not protect Othello.
Does Lago have hatred towards Othello because he wants to be more powerful than him ?
Other than the fact that Other made Cassio the lieutenant before he made Lago who was his ancient and Lago felt betrayed , but Lago seems as if he is jealous of Othello's postion. Lago made it his business to snitch on Desdemona and Othello to Brabanito her father that they had went to get eloped. Lago wanted Brabanito to be eraged at Othello so that he would be able to get on his good side. Lago says , " i know my price , i am worth no worse a place". ( shakespeare 11). Lago is saying how he feels as though he is a better canidate than Cassio and how he feels as though Othello has made a terrible choice of picking Cassio. I think Lago will go against Othello and will try to find his way to steal Othellos power because of his insecurties with being an assistant.
With Othello marrrying Desdemona, why is this so significant to Iago?
The reason why this is so significant to Iago is due to the fact that Othello is black and is the general with great power in the army whose secretly getting married to Desdemona. As the message reach Iago about Othello marrying Desdemona, his friend Roderigo reminds Iago that he dosent like Othello and Iago begins to think about how to ruin Othello reputation. The author wrote," Iago: Call up her father. Rouse him. Make after him, poison his delight, proclaim him in the streets"(Othello 11). This quote shows that Iago wants to make Othello look bad so that Desdemona father can see that Othello isn't right for her. This develops the theme of this scene which is jealousy because Iago is not able to get what Othello has so he is going to try and ruin the chances of Othello marrying Desdemona.
Why is Rodrigo so easily convinced to be against Othello?
Rodrigo Quickly choses to be on the side of Iago, because Iago convinces him that Othello stole Desdemona from him. Desdemona is the woman that Rodrigo fell in love with, but to his sadness, she does not love him in return. Instead she is in love with Othello. So Iago convinces him to torment or hurt Othello the way that Othello has hurt him. In the book Iago says, " make after him, poison his delight, Proclaim him in the streets... plague him with flies"(11). Iago knew that he could play on Rodrigo's weakness to get him to side with him. Iago knew that because Rodrigo's feelings and love for Desdemona were involved that he would be able to get Rodrigo to do whatever he needed him to do.
What do you think Brabantio will do to othello ? Now that Iago has revealed the truth about desdemona and othello to brabantio who is desdemona's father , branbantio will look for othello and may try to harm him. Othello is referred to as a big black animal that wants to only have sex with desdemona . Othello is portrayed as someone that will harm desdemona and not truely love her . Once this is revealed to desdemona's dad he didn't believe it but once Iago went on and on about the couple's choice to elope desdemona's father was infuriated. In the text it states, "Pray you lead on. At every house I'll call . I may command at most. Get weapons!" (19). At the end of the conversation with Iago Brabantio said that he wanted his people to look for othello and prepare their weapons This tells us that Branbantio is going to bring some harm to othello because he has eloped with his daughter and he doesn't want othello to be her husband .
Why does Iago work for Othello if he doesn't like him?
Iago only works for Othello for his own benefits. When Othello didn't make Iago his lieutenant, Iago was very upset. Instead Othello choice Cassio, who has no real experience with war. Othello felt like he deserve that role because he had experience with war and the only things that Cassio know about war is straight out of books. "O, sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (9). Roderigo was trying to get Iago to go against Othello because Othello took the love of his life away from him. Iago didn't want to do that because as much as he don't like him, he has to worry about his own benefits too. He only serving for Othello for his own needs. He still isn't loyal towards him though, but he don't want his feelings toward Othello to interfere with his job. He still wants to be Othello's lieutenant.
Do you think that Iago is using his rage of not being chosen as Othello's standard-bearer as an excuse for his actual envy of Othello?
I think that Iago, in some way, has envy towards Othella in general. Talking to Roderigo, Iago says "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place. But he, as loving his own pride and purposes, evades them with a bombast circumstance, horribly stuffed with epithetes of war... Nonsuits my mediators. For "Certes," says he, 'I have already chose my officer'" (7). It seems like Iago is insulting Othello in a mocking way which comes off as pure jealousy, not of Cassio who Othello chooses over Iago, rather Othello himself.
Why Is Iago Infuriated that Othello Chose Cassio over Him ?
Iago is upset that Othello chose Cassio because as his Lieutenant for the fact that Cassio has no prior military experience. Iago is confused why Othello chose someone without military experience over someone that has experience to be his lieutenant. Iago has been in multiple wars. "That never set a squadron in the field, Nor the division of a battle knows... Mere prattle without practice Is all his soldiership. But he, sir, had th' election..." (9). Iago is angry that Othello chose Cassio as lieutenant. Cassio doesn't know anything about war.
I agree with Jasmine. Cassio was upset that he wasn't chosen as Lieutenant. Cassio didn't have any experience in leading anyone into war, but Iago did at Rhodes and at Cyprus. "And I, of whom his eyes had seen the proof At Rhodes, at Cyprus, and on other grounds" (9). Iago has been in war unlike Cassio, and feels like he knows more about war than Cassio ever will.
Where does jealousy, one of the ideas, come up within the first scene?
Jealousy plays a huge role within the first conversation that Iago had with Roderigo about his hatred towards Othello. In the context of the scene, it speaks on how Roderigo envies Othello for taking the love of his life. Iago on the other has other reasons as he explains in the speech. He states, "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place. But he, as loving his own pride and purposes, Evades them with a bombast circumstance, horribly stuffed with epithets of war" (7). This basically means that he wasn't chosen because of the high pride that Othello has, which lead him to choose Cassio over him. Along with that and degrading his name and his appearance to Brabantio, jealousy is shown within the first scene of the play.
Is Othello's race the main reason Iago dislikes him?
The hate for Othello from Iago goes way beyond him not receiving his desired job . Ofcourse, anyone would be disappointed to not get the job they wished to get, but eventually they come to an understanding,get over it, and move on with their life. Iago on the other hand, fuels with hate, and plans to ruin Othello's life for that petty cause. It is apparent Iago hates Othello because of his race and skin color in the many references he makes to Othello. For instance, when he tells the father that his daughter and Othello have ran off to get married, he states, "an old black ram is tupping your white ewe" (13). He describes the sex of the two as rape. He makes Othello seem like an uncivilized being trying to demolish the innocent Helpless daughter. This only corresponds to history of Europeans thinking of Negros as savages, and further shows that Iago only targets Othello because of his different race .
What is Roderigo & Iago conversation mostly about?
Their conversation is mostly about how Iago couldn't become lieutenant for Othello and how he feels that he is more better than Cassio and how much he knows more about war than Cassio. Iago mainly feels jealous and more upset about how much accompolished Cassio and the fame that he Is better so Roderigo talks to Iago to comfort him. In the text, "that never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle knows more than a spinster - unless the bookish rhetoric," (9). Iago describes how he feels about Cassio. This relates to how he feels about not be coming lieutenant .
Make sure you proofread. Also, Roderigo isn't really comforting Iago. Iago is trying to prove to him that he hates Othello, like he told him previously. 11/15
How does racism play a major role in Othello? Racism plays a huge role in Othello because Iago constantly says racial things to Othello being that he is African. Iago uses racist slurs when he wakens Brabantio (Desdemona father) telling him that his daughter likes Othello. Iago says,"Even now, now, very now, an old black ram Is tupping your white ewe" (13). Iago is saying this because he believes that Desdemona is making the wrong decision being that she likes Othello. He does not believe the two should have a real relationship because Othello is African. Iago uses a racist slur when he compares Othello to a black ram being that a black ram is usually portrayed as dirty and old, so he is saying that Othello is no good for Desdemona who is compared to a white ewe which is pure. Racism is playing a major part in the book so far because Othello and Desdemona's relationship won't be accepted because they are different races.
why does lago has hatred for othello ? Lago has hatred toards othello because he has given the officer cassie the job as the lieutant and thats what lago has alwyas wanted. So lago feels like othello did him wrong because he was qualified enough for that posiition and he feel as though othello just did him wrong . It states " I know my price " ( line 12 ) etc. lago means that he knows what he is capable of doing but since he already wanna choose cassie he has nothing more to say to othello that is why he tells the senator about othello having his affairs So now othello has some explaing to do.
Question: Do you think that Iago uses race to sabotage Othello? Answer: I think that Iago uses race to sabotage Othello as a way to get back at him for not assigning him to be the lieutenant of the army. Ways in which Iago uses race to sabotage Othello is when he was outside with his friend Roderigo talking to him about his anger towards Othello and as he is talking to him, he involves Barbantio, Desdemona's father into the conversation. Iago says, "Your heart is burst. You have lost half your soul. Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe...the devil will make a grandsire of you...Because we come to do you service and you think we are ruffians, you'll have your daughter covered with a Barbary horse, you'll nephews neigh to you, you'll have coursers for cousins and jennets for germans" (13 & 15). This quote shows how Iago uses race to sabotage Othello because instead of using Othello's name to explain to Barbamtio what it's happening to his daughter or what she is doing, he decided to describe Othello as a dangerous animal who is hurting his daughter. Such as calling him an old black ram and a horse and a devil who will turn his grandchildren and other family members into animals ad well. Which encourages Barbantio to go after Othello, possibly kill him for having sex with his daughter, and then retrieving his daughter. Which is something Iago is hoping for.
Iago reveals in the first few pages that he dislikes Othello and that this disliking quickly boils over into hate once he isn’t promoted to the title he believes he’s worthy of. Iago intends to put on the persona of a true and dedicated servant. He even goes as far as lying on Othello and calling him several animals. In the text Iago insults Othello stating, “you’ll have your daughter covered by a Barbary horse…your daughter and the Moor are (now) making the beast with two backs”. He’s trying to turn Desdomona’s father against Othello, who’s her lover. By doing so he shows that he is not a genuine friend to Othello because this is not what a true friend would do.
Do you think Iago truly believes he is best for the job or is just power hungry? In my opinion I ago is just power hungry more than one who actually deserves the job. I believe I ago is a hard worker but I also believe he is just hungry for whatever power he can obtain. For instance, Iago is willing to betray Othello just to gain a higher position. The text states,"I follow him to serve my turn upon him"(9). Clearly, Iago isn't one who admires loyalty. He just admires power. He is willing to do whatever he can to obtain power.
To answer Briona question i think Iago is best for the job instead of power hungry because he point out the fact that Cassio hasn't had any experience. So who would want a person like Cassio with any war experience . For example in the text it states "But he sir had th election; and i of whom his eyes had seen the proof at Rhodes at Cyprus and on grounds Christened and heathen"(55).This showing how Iago is saying he is best for the job since he had experience with many wars that happen in the past .Where as Cassio didn't and lago would have more knowledge to help out in a war because of his experiences with other wars.
Is Iago jealous of Othello? In my opinion Iago is very jealous of Othello and wants others to disapprove of him as much as he does. For instance Iago goes to Brabantio to warn him of Othello and is daughter and uses insulting language to better bribe him to be against him. The text states,"your daughter and the Moor are (now) making the beast with two backs. Thou art a villain"(13). Iago works for Othello yet he still talks about him badly to others and wants others to be against him.
Do you think Iago would try to do something like kill Cassio to get him out the way. I believe Iago would try to kill Cassio or will have him set up because he believe he has all the skills to be Othello lieutenant instead of Cassio. For example in the text it states "that never set a squadron in the field, Nor the division of battles..I of whom his eyes had seen the proof At Rhondes,at Cypru and on on grounds. Iago feels some type of way that Cassio is the lieutenant but doesn't know much about war or nothing which make me come to the conclusion that Iago will they to kill Cassio .
Since Othello is viewed as the outsider and different, how is he receiving the most highest honor in the army?
Othello is viewed by Iago and Roderigo as a Barbary horse and a black ram which shows to most people his skin color is quite different from the rest. However, Othello is some how the leader of the army and has to appoint a lieutenant to be under him. Othello has the highest position in the army but yet he is viewed as an outsider. Iago states, " If I do not. Three great ones of the city. In personal suit to make me his lieutenant, Off-capped to him; and, by the faith of man. I know my price, I am worth no worse a place " (7). To clafly, Iago wanted to be the lieutenant who would work alongside Othello in the army. However, Othello picked Michael Cassio to be the lieutenant. Which shows how usually people who are viewed different and an outsider are cast down in society but yet even for Othello to be different he some how holds the highest power in the army.
Desdemona and othello elope because they arent allowed to marry because othello is black and Desdemona's father doesn't want them to marry. On page 17 barbanto states, "Stirke on the tinder, ho! Give me a taper. Call up all my people. This accident is not unlike my dream. Belief of it oppresses me already. Light, I say, Light !" When Barbanto finds out about the eloping he is furious and he sends out his people to find Othello.
Since race or racism is hidden but still brought up during this time of Othello, but do you think that the form of racism we have today is evident in Othello, and do you think this moment marks the form of raicsm?
I think that in "Othello" race is more hidden but not fully accepted. For example Othello is a general that is rank in a higher position and is not faced with threats and untolerance by the citizens yet. But I think this is manily because race during this time isn't such a hatred topic since blacks were accepted and not so much seen as ignoble in society. But even though blacks are accepted they are still ridculed in society. For example amongst the few pages we read in class Rodriego tells Brabanito about his daughter sleeping with Othello.But, he describes Othello as animal like, and the form of racism comes up amongst these pages. So racism is hidden but still evident during this time and also I think during this time period this is when racism is introduced.
Why is it such a big deal that Othello and Desdemona are married? It is a big deal that they are married because Othello and Desdemona didn't have permission to get married from her father. Iago, Othello's servant or assistant began to plot against Othello because he believed that he deserved the position of lieutenant. Because Othello gave the position to Cassio, Iago seeks revenge. In seeking revenge, he decides to tell Rodrigo, Desdemona's ex that she and Othello are married without the permission of her father, "look to your house, your daughter, and your bags! Thieves, thieves! sir your are robbed... Your heart is burst. You have lost half your soul" (13). Rodrigo and Iago inform Desdemona's father that she is now married and the way that they presented it to him was in such a way that made it seem as if he had been robbed. Desdemona's father disapproves of this union.
What is problem that Lago has with Othello and does he do anything about it? The issue Iago has with Othello is that he's upset with the fact that Othello has the high position. The high position is being officer and Iago feels that he is right for being officer since he's been apart of a battle. Since Othello has had no experience he shouldn't be officer. Othello is in love with Desdemona, Iago needs help with killing Othello and knowing Roderigo is in love with her is willing to do anything to have her back, Iago uses Roderigo as he's partner in crime. Iago says to Rodgeigo "Call her father. Rouse him. Make after him...As it may lose some color."(line 74-80). Both Iago and Roderigo had their way of getting what they want. Iago would go to her father and get the guards and swords ready for Othello and get that position, as to Roderigo looking as a hero by helping taking Othello down for the daughter of Barbantio and getting her to fall in love with him.
Why is Iago choosing not to quit the Military Service ?
Iago is choosing not to quit because he wants to take advantage of Venice. Iago taking advantage of Venice allows him to become in control. Iago believes that all people in charge should not be obeyed. Iago wants to be apart of The Military service so that he can keep a watchful eye of what is going on with the soldiers as well as the lieutenant. He states,"O sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn upon him. We cannot all be masters, nor all masters Cannot be truly followed"(Line 45). Iago is plotting revenge. He is upset that he was not chosen. He wants to get Venice back for not picking him to be lieutenant. He believes the only way to do this is by pretending to be with him rather then against him.
why doesn't brabantio like othello ? Brabantio doesn't like othello because he doesn't think othello is someone that is good enough to date Desdemona. Due to the way othello looks and where he is from he isn't the ideal person brabantio wants his daughter to marry. Brabantio believes that ohello has placed a spell on his daughter that has made her marry him. This tells us that brabantio doesn't believe it'strue love between othello and Desdemona. In the text it states , "If she in chains of magic were not bound ," (25). Brabantio thinks that the only reason Desdemona is even interested in him is because he has cast a spell on her and once she realize exactly what he is doing she will no longer be intrested in him because he isn't someone Desdemona will marry or be with.
What is Iago's Problem with Othello? Iago doesn't like Othello because he feels that he deserves the spot that Othello is in. And to add insult to injury, Othello appointed Iago as his assistant. He said, "And I...must be beleed and calmed... [as] his Moorship's Ancient" (9). Iago is a wonderful soldier and general. This is the fact that pushes him to want a promotion. He would've had it too if it wasn't for Othello. He probably be less salty if Othello gave him a position that exemplifies his level of expertise. However, he was made a mere assistant. Iago's problem with Othello is that he wants a high enough position that demands respect.
The tone of this scene is bitter and angry. The bitter and angry tones can be seen throughout the speech when Roderigo says that Cassio is a man "that never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle knows" (Shakespeare 7). This line shows Iago's bitterness and anger toward Cassio because Iago feels as if Othello should have chosen him to be his lieutenant. He indeed feels betrayed because all he is now is a servant who has devoted his life to Othello but has gotten nothing in return.
In the opening of the play Shakespeare introduces an allusion to the devil through Iago. In the bible it is said that God stated “I am what I am”. The opposite is stated by Iago who states, “I am not what I am” (11). Iago shows to be nice and supportive to Othello but in reality only wants to harm him and take his position. The devil was said to be the same way. He was opposite of what he made others think he was. Their intentions are similar and both are contradicting to Gods words. God was good and showed exactly what others had to see of him. Since Iago states something that is similar but contradicting to Gods word, as well as the devil being the opposite of God, the reader is introduced to an allusion by Shakespeare through Iago.
What is Iago's underline issue with Othello? Why?
ReplyDeleteIago doesn't like the fact that Othello placed someone else as his lieutenant besides Iago. Iago was declared the servant instead. Cassio took the title as Othello's lieutenant and Iago seems to be jealous. Iago even goes on to say that he has more experience in the war field then Cassio. In an excerpt from the text it states, " That never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle ...and I, of whom his eyes had seen the proof" (Act 1, Scene 1). Iago claims he knows more and now despised Othello for his decision. In addition, Iago is trying to now make Othello a target and plot against him by talking to others who aren't fans of Othello. Overall, Iago is upset and envious over Cassio's position over his and now wants to seek revenge of Othello.
Great, comprehensive analysis of this part of the text. 15/15
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ReplyDeleteThe tone in this scene is very serious or a betrayal tone. This is shown many times throughout the novel from many different characters such as Iago and Roderigo specifically. This is because the fact of what is being said from both of these characters mouths. In the text it states."That thou, Iago, who hast my purse as if strings were thine, shouldst know of this"(lines 2-3). This shows how this is the tone of betrayal because of how Roderigo and Iago are suppose to be close but Roderigo is threatening to tell on Iago to Othello.
Summarize what are they actually saying in your own words before introducing the quote. That is a stronger intro than "what they are saying" which is vague. 13/15
DeleteIago feels betrayed, what could he be intending to do?
ReplyDeleteIago strikes me as the type to sabotage any who stand in his way towards achieving the rank of lieutenant. He may be intending to eliminate and/or remove Othello from his position. He may try to convince others that Othello is a risk and that second-thoughts should be held towards him. Iago for a fact wants something, and should be viewed as a protagonist from here on out. "I am worth no worse a place" seems very negative. This man has bad intentions.
I'd like you to explain how exactly the line is negative. Response lacks justification. 13/15
DeleteDo you think Iago plans to tell King about his daughter's relationship will ruin them?
ReplyDeleteIago's plan to tell King about his daughter's relationship will not ruin them. Desdemona has already eloped Othello and her father can not force them to divorce assuming that her father's word means nothing compared to love. Iago plans to " follow [Othello] to serve [his] turn upon him" (line 45) and telling Desdemona secret could only be the start of a lager plan of destruction. You can infer this because Iago is angry because he was not given the lieutenancy he wanted. Lieutenancy gives you power and in order contain such you have take out who holds the current power.
DeleteI disagree with you destiny because i believe it will ruin them. I think it will ruin them because lago convinces Brabantio that his kids will look like animals. William states, " you'll have your nephews neigh to you, you'll have coursers for cousins and jennets for germans" (shakesphere 15). This makes Barbantio upset and he starts to further question does he want to interfere. I think he is going to want to stop this marriage and make them get a divorce. He doesnt want "animals" as family. If he has animals as family that would be seen as an embrassment. So he is going to say something to his daughter. And end their marriage for the sake of the family.
Good responses both of you. You give a solid explanation for your disagreement and Destiny, your response is a good prediciton as well. 15/15
DeleteWhat do you predict will happen to between Iago and Othello or Cassio?
ReplyDeleteFrom reading the introduction to Othello, I predict that Iago will attempt to kill Cassio. Often, when people are overcome with hate and envy, they commit heinous acts to substitute for anger. Because Iago is overwhelmed with hatred and anger of Othello’s picking Cassio as his ancient, Iago will devise a plan to slake his envy. While talking to Roderigo, Iago espouses his hatred for Othello because he was not selected for the position: “ I follow him to serve my turn upon him… In following him I follow but myself” (11). Iago proclaims that he will not follow Othello with loyalty and subservience, but he will follow him to meet the needs of his own desires! Maybe Iago will follow Othello closely in order to overthrow him; he plans to kill Othello and Cassio as an act of vengeance. Therefore, Iago will follow Othello only to kill him and retrieve the throne.
Good response. I love that you are pushing yourself to use advanced vocab! Careful -- he's the general, not the king (no throne). 15/15
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ReplyDeleteWhat is Iago plan regarding Othello?
Iago's plan is to be the air of Othello. Iago plans that after Othello has his term, he will be next behind him. Iago has so much hate toward Othello and whenever his term comes to an end he will be next in line. In this quote, it tells exactly what Iago plan is regarding Othello. It states, " I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (Othello 7). Iago hates Othello but the only reason why he still follows him because he wishes to be him one day. Because Othello did not make Iago Lieutenant, made Iago hate him. Since Iago hates Othello, made him want to be him one day. Therefore, Iago's plan is to be the air of Othello.
You should explain more clearly how "serve my turn upon him" means take his place. You don't analyze the line enough to prove that interpretation. 13/15
DeleteHow do you think Brabantio would act after Iago told him about Othello and his daughter?
ReplyDeleteI think that Brabantio would be furious because this is something that he did not know. Iago's hate for Othello caused him to tell Brabantio about his daughter. First of all no parent wants to hear that his daughter is having sexual relations with someone else. In this quote, it tell what Iago told Brabantio about his daughter and Othello. It says, "You have lost half your soul. Even now , now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe" (Othello 13). First this is really rude to say to a father. Iago just wants everyone to hate Othello just as much he does. Because Iago told Brabantio that his daughter was having relations with Othello, made him furious. Therefore, Brabantio would be upset that Iago told him that his daughter is having sex with Othello.
Is this really a prediction or is it an obvious explanation of the text? Push yourself to make more analytical predictions or statements about the text (assertions that can actually be argued as opposed to things that are correct but obvious). This is a skill you will need for AP next year. 13/15
DeleteDo you think that Brabantio will hate Othello for secretly getting married to his daughter?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Brabantio will not hate Othello for secretly getting married to Desdemona because in my opinion Othello isn't unfit for Desdemona because Othello is a very noble person. Being that Othello is General of the Venetian Army, I think that Brabantio will be proud to see that his daughter is married to someone of such power. However, I think that her father and mother will be sad that they weren't able to be there and have an actual wedding with their daughter. In the text it states " In personal suit to make me his lieutenant, off-capped to him" This quote proves that Othello has the power and authority to pick who he thinks deserves the job. That kind of power makes him completely noble and powerful, more powerful then the king himself.
Interesting analysis of characters and that quote in particular. 15/15
DeleteWhy does Iago believe he should be lieutenant?
ReplyDeleteIago believes that he is most fit to be the lieutenant of the Venetian army due to his success on the battlefield at times of war. He refers to a time when he did good in battle as proof as to why he should be the lieutenant instead of Othello. "At Rhodes, at Cyprus, and on (other) grounds Christened and heathen, must be beleed and calmed" (9). Iago is trying to impress his audience by pointing out his success at previous battles at Rhodes and at Cyprus. Even though Iago is proving himself to be a good candidate, it is to no avail as Othello is still chosen. "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place" (7). Iago strongly believes that he is the right choice for the lieutenancy and should be appointed as such. Iago believes he is the right person to be lieutenant due to his previous success in battle.
I agree with Naheem's point about why Iago believed he should be Lieutenant , but to add on Iago thought he was better than Othello. To make his point he started throwing racial slurs and throwing Othello under the bus. According to Iago, "that never set a squadron in the field , nor the division of a battle knows"(9). Basically saying that Othello isn't right for the spot because he's all talk and doesn't have any experience.
DeleteNaheem -- excellent response. 15/15
DeleteTamra -- you are confusing Cassio and Othello. 12/15
Why does iago say on page 9 that"we cannot all be masters, nor all masters cannot be truly followed" ?
ReplyDeleteIago makes this statement stated on page 9 because he doesn't truly follow othello and ddoesn't believe he should be in command. In the beginning of the act, iago and roderigo are discussing their hate for othello. This conversation includes iago discussing his disapproval in othello's choice to make cassio
His general instead of him. Iago states that"i follow him to serve my turn upon him"(9). Iago doesnt believe that othello has made the right choice in picking his general and as a result iago wants to continue showing favor and love to othello until the right moment when iago can strike him of his power and be in control. Iago believes that othello is an unfit leader and thinks he should be stepped down as a result .
I agree because also in the text iago places himself above othello as a master and leader. In the act when continuing the conversation about iago's hate for the decision othello made about his general iago states that"in following him,i follow but myself"(11).making it clear to readers that he's following othello, but in reality he's following his own self and his own judgements. Othello maybe the head now, but in the end he shall be the tail if iago has anything to do with it.
DeleteThis is a little confusing -- are you agreeing with yourself? In either care, your analysis of Iago thinking he is better than Othello is interesting and probably accurate. 14/15
DeleteWhat does IAGO mean when he says "Thought I do hate him as I do hell (pains,) Yet, for necessity of present life, I must show out a flag and sign of love-Which is indeed but sign." ?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, after Iago stirred up trouble with Othello and Brabantio he feels like he shouldn't be around when Desdemona's father general confronts Othello. Even though Iago hates Othello he has to pretend he love him as in he needs to keep his enemy's close because Iago uses war to describe his relationship with Othello he'll "show out a flag" as a sign of his loyalty. It's like he's trying wave a peace sign to Othello when all he really want to do is attack his enemy which would be Othello. So in order to further his plans he much have Othello's trust and love.
Great analysis of the military diction! 14/15
DeleteWhat kind of person is Iago ?
ReplyDeleteIago is an opportunist. He uses people for his own benefit which will get him what he wants. In this scene Iago is taking advantage of Roderigo. Iago says, "I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (9). Iago persuades Roderigo help him by confessing that he wants to gain higher status. The conversation between Iago and Roderigo shows that Iago pretends to be loyal to Othello only because it will benefit him.
Your explanation of the quote is a little confusing -- it sounds as if you're talking about Iago following Roderigo (when he's referring to Othello in that scene). 13/15
DeleteWhy is Roderigo upset?
ReplyDeleteRoderigo is upset because he feels that he put his trust into Iago, and he deceived him. Roderigo stress the fact that he has given Iago money to show how much he put his faith in him but refuses to listen to Iago's reasoning for his actions. Roderigo says "thou toldst me thou didst hold him in thy hate."(7) Roderigo doesn't wish to agree with Iago and feel that them not being on the same side is not a good thing. Roderigo refuses to praise Othello ,even though he has trust for Iago, he still decides to go against his friend's plan.
What do they disagree about? This response is missing some important context. Not on the same side of what? This response seems confused about the basic events of the scene. 11/15
DeleteWhat does he mean when he says, "You have lost half your soul. Even now , now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe"? What does he compare Desdemona and Othello to?
ReplyDeleteThey are telling Brabantio that his daughter, "half his soul", has been taken by Othello, "black ewe". The quote above means that Othello is out preying on his daughter. In this scene, Othello and Desdemona are compared to sheep in this scene and it says that then together will produce a beast.
Go a little further with your analysis. Why would they produce a beast? What's the implication there? 13/15
DeleteWhat is one important idea that comes up in the first few pages?
ReplyDeleteOne important idea that appears in the first few pages is the importance of fondness in the military. The characters put an emphasis on power being connected to favoritism. Iago says to Roderigo, "Preferment goes by letter and affection, and not by old gradation, where each second stood heir to th' first" (9). This line is saying that positions seem to be given to those who are more liked rather than those who have more skills. This conversation shows us how personalities are valuable in the military because those who are well-liked will always get priority, over those least-liked, for jobs.
Good analysis of an important theme in this scene. 15/15
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ReplyDeleteWhy do Roderigo not want Othello to marry Barbantio's daughter ?
ReplyDeleteRoderigo don't want Othello to marry the daughter because he wants her for himself. Roderigo trys to make it seem like he just want to help Barbantio stop this black monster from taking advantage of his daughter. Roderigo says to Barbantio, "If this be known to you, and your allowance, We then have done you bold and saucy wrongs" (15). This shows how Roderigo does whatever it takes to stop Othello from marrying the daughter, so he could make his move and convince Barbantio to let him marry her. Iago makes it seem like Othello is bad for the daughter and should marry her because it like shame the family, and he could them make the move to marry her.
Your quote doesn't exactly match your assertion that Roderigo will do whatever it takes. In this quote he is saying that if Brabantio knows about the marriage, then he would leave them alone. 13/15
DeleteDo you think that Iago and Rodrigo show us the feeling of Jealousy toward's Othello through their actions?
ReplyDeleteIn the text Iago is not given the opportunity to become lieutenant and Rodrigo's woman has been taken by Othello, so because of this Iago and Rodrigo do convey their Jealousy by trying to persuade Branbantio that Othello has his daughter, and use ugly descriptions to persuade him. In the text Iago and Rodrigo plead to Branbantio to listen to their summons, and use racial descriptions to make it more intriguing, " an old black ram is tupping your white ewe, Arise, arise!"(13). It seems like through the testimony of Rodrigo he has developed Jealousy toward's Othello, and so has Iago who was standing next to him making his own decree. This shows Jealousy toward's Othello because he has a beautiful woman, and has the choice of making powerful decisions on who leads the battlefield.
Good analysis of the motif of jealousy. 14/15
DeleteHow do the characters try to turn other characters against Othello?
ReplyDeleteRoderick tries to turn Brabantio against Othello by informing Brabantio that Othello is on a date with Brabantio's daughter. Roderigo does not like Othello, but he likes Brabantio's daughter. Roderigo tries to get Brabantio to not like Othello, also, so he tells Brabantio about their date. He says, "Your fair daughter, at this odd-even time o' th' night, transported with no worse nor better guard but with a knave of common hire, a gondolier, to the gross clasps of a lascivious Moor: if this be known to you, and your allowance" (137). Roderigo tells Brabantio about his daughter dating Othello. Knowing that Brabantio will not approve of anyone dating his daughter, Roderigo tells him that Othello is dating his daughter. Now that Brabantio knows that Othello is dating his daughter, he will most-likely not like Othello. This is part of Roderigo's plan to get more people to nit like Othello.
Who's Roderick? Chavis? He's in this play?!? They are more than on a date -- they've run off and gotten married in secret. Response is somewhat confused. Proofread. 12/15
DeleteHow do you think race will play a role in this book ? I think think that the plot of this book will be centered around the fact that othello is of a darker pigment then the other men in this book and how they hate him because of this. On the first page roderigo says " Thou toldest me thou didst hold him in thy hate". In short he is asking iago i thought u hated othello too , it is not made clear why he asked him this or why he hates othello. All we know is that othello is a black man and is of a higher rank then them, so a assume that is why they feel hate for him because they feel like he is some one who should be lower then them.
ReplyDeleteRacism plays a role in this book where Iago continuously talks about Othello because he is an African from the north. Iago is Othello's assistant and is upset because he feel like Othello should have chosen him for a higher position. In order to get back at Othello, Iago decided to make up a lie saying that Othello was messing with Brabantio's daughter. It was not common for people to have interracial relationships and Iago know Othello would be in trouble if its true. However, Iago ran to Brabantio saying, "you'll have your daughter covered with a Babary horse, you'll have your nephews neigh to you" (15). Iago was making racist comments about Othello saying how he's a horse, but more of an animal. Iago plan is to make Brabantio believe him so he could have people go after Othello and arrest him. Brabantio doesn't approve of Othello because he's a black and ends up believing Iago. This will cause Barbantio to not like Othello and possibly loose his position if things get worse.
DeleteI disagree , I dont think that race will play much of a role in the grand sceem of things. I think that the plot will focus around the fact that iago was appointed othellos assistent and not the possition he wanted. Iago says " I follow him to serve my turn upon him " which shows that his goal of gaining power triumphs over racesism because roderigo, who truly hates othello , refuses to even follow him.
DeleteGood question, Nasir. 14/15
DeleteVery thorough analysis, Shaakirah. 15/15
An-Nisa, good explanation of the opposing viewpoint, however, make sure you proofread to earn full credit! 13/15
What might be a reason that Brabantio doesn't want his daughter with Othello?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio might not want his daughter with Othello because it would make him look bad. Othello race and character stands out from others within the book. With Othello being involved with Brabantio daughter, it would make Brabantio look down upon by the people in his society. When Iago came to make Brabantio aware about his daughters marriage with Othello he states" you'll have your daughter covered with a Babary horse, you'll have your nephews neigh to you"(15). Othello is being called a black horse from African and being talked down upon by Iago. Many men in this society feel the same way about Othello and if Brabantio allows his daughter to be with someone like this, then he too will be looked down upon. Because of this, Brabantio does not want his daughter with Othello because it would make him look bad.
Good clear, explanation. 15/15
DeleteWhy does Iago Work for Othello if he doesn't like him?
ReplyDeleteIago continues to work for Othello even though he doesn't like him because he wants to over throw him and be powerful. He's only working for Othello for his own benefits in life. He acts as if he likes him so no one, not even Othello, will have a clue of what he's doing. In the book Iago says, "I follow him to serve my turn upon him"(line 45). He's waiting until Othello sees his loyalty to him so that he can stop his power and help himself.
Good question and a solid response. 14/15
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ReplyDeleteWhy do you think its an issue for Othello and Desdemona to be together?
Just from reading scene one you can get the idea that it is a problem for them, but only because of race. When Iago wants to get revenge on Othello, he runs to Desdemonia father and tells him that she is with him. In scene one it tells it saying, " An old black ram is tupping your white ewe". When Iago says this hes basically saying that a black man has taken you white daughter and they are together. By him saying that its showing how race plays a role because they obviously don't want whites and blacks together.
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DeleteWhy do you think it is such an issue for Iago that he was replaced by someone else to work for Othello ?
ReplyDeleteThe clear issue that Iago has with someone else working for Othello is that he feels that he has worked hard for that spot and only to be seen as an assistant is very patronizing to him. He feels that the guy Cassio is under-qualified and un-deservant of the position Othello has bestow upon him. In the text it states ",a great arithmetician , one Michael cassio, a Florentine... never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of battle knows more than a spinister"(9). Clearly Iago expresses his feelings in stating that he is more qualified for the job because he is actually military trained and can protect, also that Cassio has never step foot on a military base nor does he know anything about military living , therefore can not protect Othello.
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DeleteDoes Lago have hatred towards Othello because he wants to be more powerful than him ?
ReplyDeleteOther than the fact that Other made Cassio the lieutenant before he made Lago who was his ancient and Lago felt betrayed , but Lago seems as if he is jealous of Othello's postion. Lago made it his business to snitch on Desdemona and Othello to Brabanito her father that they had went to get eloped. Lago wanted Brabanito to be eraged at Othello so that he would be able to get on his good side. Lago says , " i know my price , i am worth no worse a place". ( shakespeare 11). Lago is saying how he feels as though he is a better canidate than Cassio and how he feels as though Othello has made a terrible choice of picking Cassio. I think Lago will go against Othello and will try to find his way to steal Othellos power because of his insecurties with being an assistant.
Interesting theory. Make sure you proofread and break up sentences (like the first) that are too long. 13/15
DeleteWith Othello marrrying Desdemona, why is this so significant to Iago?
ReplyDeleteThe reason why this is so significant to Iago is due to the fact that Othello is black and is the general with great power in the army whose secretly getting married to Desdemona. As the message reach Iago about Othello marrying Desdemona, his friend Roderigo reminds Iago that he dosent like Othello and Iago begins to think about how to ruin Othello reputation. The author wrote," Iago: Call up her father. Rouse him. Make after him, poison his delight, proclaim him in the streets"(Othello 11). This quote shows that Iago wants to make Othello look bad so that Desdemona father can see that Othello isn't right for her. This develops the theme of this scene which is jealousy because Iago is not able to get what Othello has so he is going to try and ruin the chances of Othello marrying Desdemona.
Why is Rodrigo so easily convinced to be against Othello?
ReplyDeleteRodrigo Quickly choses to be on the side of Iago, because Iago convinces him that Othello stole Desdemona from him. Desdemona is the woman that Rodrigo fell in love with, but to his sadness, she does not love him in return. Instead she is in love with Othello. So Iago convinces him to torment or hurt Othello the way that Othello has hurt him. In the book Iago says, " make after him, poison his delight, Proclaim him in the streets... plague him with flies"(11). Iago knew that he could play on Rodrigo's weakness to get him to side with him. Iago knew that because Rodrigo's feelings and love for Desdemona were involved that he would be able to get Rodrigo to do whatever he needed him to do.
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DeleteWhat do you think Brabantio will do to othello ?
ReplyDeleteNow that Iago has revealed the truth about desdemona and othello to brabantio who is desdemona's father , branbantio will look for othello and may try to harm him. Othello is referred to as a big black animal that wants to only have sex with desdemona . Othello is portrayed as someone that will harm desdemona and not truely love her . Once this is revealed to desdemona's dad he didn't believe it but once Iago went on and on about the couple's choice to elope desdemona's father was infuriated. In the text it states, "Pray you lead on. At every house I'll call . I may command at most. Get weapons!" (19). At the end of the conversation with Iago Brabantio said that he wanted his people to look for othello and prepare their weapons This tells us that Branbantio is going to bring some harm to othello because he has eloped with his daughter and he doesn't want othello to be her husband .
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DeleteWhy does Iago work for Othello if he doesn't like him?
ReplyDeleteIago only works for Othello for his own benefits. When Othello didn't make Iago his lieutenant, Iago was very upset. Instead Othello choice Cassio, who has no real experience with war. Othello felt like he deserve that role because he had experience with war and the only things that Cassio know about war is straight out of books. "O, sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn upon him" (9). Roderigo was trying to get Iago to go against Othello because Othello took the love of his life away from him. Iago didn't want to do that because as much as he don't like him, he has to worry about his own benefits too. He only serving for Othello for his own needs. He still isn't loyal towards him though, but he don't want his feelings toward Othello to interfere with his job. He still wants to be Othello's lieutenant.
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DeleteDo you think that Iago is using his rage of not being chosen as Othello's standard-bearer as an excuse for his actual envy of Othello?
ReplyDeleteI think that Iago, in some way, has envy towards Othella in general. Talking to Roderigo, Iago says "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place. But he, as loving his own pride and purposes, evades them with a bombast circumstance, horribly stuffed with epithetes of war... Nonsuits my mediators. For "Certes," says he, 'I have already chose my officer'" (7). It seems like Iago is insulting Othello in a mocking way which comes off as pure jealousy, not of Cassio who Othello chooses over Iago, rather Othello himself.
Good analysis. Explain what might make him jealous of Othello generally for full credit. 14/15
DeleteJasmine Wills
ReplyDeleteWhy Is Iago Infuriated that Othello Chose Cassio over Him ?
Iago is upset that Othello chose Cassio because as his Lieutenant for the fact that Cassio has no prior military experience. Iago is confused why Othello chose someone without military experience over someone that has experience to be his lieutenant. Iago has been in multiple wars. "That never set a squadron in the field, Nor the division of a battle knows... Mere prattle without practice Is all his soldiership. But he, sir, had th' election..." (9). Iago is angry that Othello chose Cassio as lieutenant. Cassio doesn't know anything about war.
Judaea Jackson
DeleteI agree with Jasmine. Cassio was upset that he wasn't chosen as Lieutenant. Cassio didn't have any experience in leading anyone into war, but Iago did at Rhodes and at Cyprus. "And I, of whom his eyes had seen the proof At Rhodes, at Cyprus, and on other grounds" (9). Iago has been in war unlike Cassio, and feels like he knows more about war than Cassio ever will.
Jasmine: aim for a more original question and text evidence to back up your assertion. 13/15
DeleteJudaea: Cassio was chosen as lieutenant. Proofread. Insufficient justifcation. No original analysis. 11/15
Where does jealousy, one of the ideas, come up within the first scene?
ReplyDeleteJealousy plays a huge role within the first conversation that Iago had with Roderigo about his hatred towards Othello. In the context of the scene, it speaks on how Roderigo envies Othello for taking the love of his life. Iago on the other has other reasons as he explains in the speech. He states, "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place. But he, as loving his own pride and purposes, Evades them with a bombast circumstance, horribly stuffed with epithets of war" (7). This basically means that he wasn't chosen because of the high pride that Othello has, which lead him to choose Cassio over him. Along with that and degrading his name and his appearance to Brabantio, jealousy is shown within the first scene of the play.
15/15 Good analysis of this motif.
DeleteIs Othello's race the main reason Iago dislikes him?
ReplyDeleteThe hate for Othello from Iago goes way beyond him not receiving his desired job . Ofcourse, anyone would be disappointed to not get the job they wished to get, but eventually they come to an understanding,get over it, and move on with their life. Iago on the other hand, fuels with hate, and plans to ruin Othello's life for that petty cause. It is apparent Iago hates Othello because of his race and skin color in the many references he makes to Othello. For instance, when he tells the father that his daughter and Othello have ran off to get married, he states, "an old black ram is tupping your white ewe" (13). He describes the sex of the two as rape. He makes Othello seem like an uncivilized being trying to demolish the innocent Helpless daughter. This only corresponds to history of Europeans thinking of Negros as savages, and further shows that Iago only targets Othello because of his different race .
Good more in-depth analysis of Iago's motivations (making inferences, reading between the lines) 15/15
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ReplyDeleteWhat is Roderigo & Iago conversation mostly about?
Their conversation is mostly about how Iago couldn't become lieutenant for Othello and how he feels that he is more better than Cassio and how much he knows more about war than Cassio. Iago mainly feels jealous and more upset about how much accompolished Cassio and the fame that he Is better so Roderigo talks to Iago to comfort him. In the text, "that never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle knows more than a spinster - unless the bookish rhetoric," (9). Iago describes how he feels about Cassio. This relates to how he feels about not be coming lieutenant .
Make sure you proofread. Also, Roderigo isn't really comforting Iago. Iago is trying to prove to him that he hates Othello, like he told him previously. 11/15
DeleteHow does racism play a major role in Othello?
ReplyDeleteRacism plays a huge role in Othello because Iago constantly says racial things to Othello being that he is African. Iago uses racist slurs when he wakens Brabantio (Desdemona father) telling him that his daughter likes Othello. Iago says,"Even now, now, very now, an old black ram
Is tupping your white ewe" (13). Iago is saying this because he believes that Desdemona is making the wrong decision being that she likes Othello. He does not believe the two should have a real relationship because Othello is African. Iago uses a racist slur when he compares Othello to a black ram being that a black ram is usually portrayed as dirty and old, so he is saying that Othello is no good for Desdemona who is compared to a white ewe which is pure. Racism is playing a major part in the book so far because Othello and Desdemona's relationship won't be accepted because they are different races.
Make sure you introduce a new point that hasn't been discussed yet if you are going to use the same quote as other responses. 13/15
Deletewhy does lago has hatred for othello ?
ReplyDeleteLago has hatred toards othello because he has given the officer cassie the job as the lieutant and thats what lago has alwyas wanted. So lago feels like othello did him wrong because he was qualified enough for that posiition and he feel as though othello just did him wrong . It states " I know my price " ( line 12 ) etc. lago means that he knows what he is capable of doing but since he already wanna choose cassie he has nothing more to say to othello that is why he tells the senator about othello having his affairs So now othello has some explaing to do.
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DeleteQuestion: Do you think that Iago uses race to sabotage Othello?
ReplyDeleteAnswer: I think that Iago uses race to sabotage Othello as a way to get back at him for not assigning him to be the lieutenant of the army. Ways in which Iago uses race to sabotage Othello is when he was outside with his friend Roderigo talking to him about his anger towards Othello and as he is talking to him, he involves Barbantio, Desdemona's father into the conversation. Iago says, "Your heart is burst. You have lost half your soul. Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe...the devil will make a grandsire of you...Because we come to do you service and you think we are ruffians, you'll have your daughter covered with a Barbary horse, you'll nephews neigh to you, you'll have coursers for cousins and jennets for germans" (13 & 15). This quote shows how Iago uses race to sabotage Othello because instead of using Othello's name to explain to Barbamtio what it's happening to his daughter or what she is doing, he decided to describe Othello as a dangerous animal who is hurting his daughter. Such as calling him an old black ram and a horse and a devil who will turn his grandchildren and other family members into animals ad well. Which encourages Barbantio to go after Othello, possibly kill him for having sex with his daughter, and then retrieving his daughter. Which is something Iago is hoping for.
Good analysis of the implications of diction in this scene. 15/15
DeleteIs Iago a genuine friend to Othello?
ReplyDeleteIago reveals in the first few pages that he dislikes Othello and that this disliking quickly boils over into hate once he isn’t promoted to the title he believes he’s worthy of. Iago intends to put on the persona of a true and dedicated servant. He even goes as far as lying on Othello and calling him several animals. In the text Iago insults Othello stating, “you’ll have your daughter covered by a Barbary horse…your daughter and the Moor are (now) making the beast with two backs”. He’s trying to turn Desdomona’s father against Othello, who’s her lover. By doing so he shows that he is not a genuine friend to Othello because this is not what a true friend would do.
Good summary of all the ways Iago betrays Othello's trust so far. 15/15
DeleteDo you think Iago truly believes he is best for the job or is just power hungry?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I ago is just power hungry more than one who actually deserves the job. I believe I ago is a hard worker but I also believe he is just hungry for whatever power he can obtain. For instance, Iago is willing to betray Othello just to gain a higher position. The text states,"I follow him to serve my turn upon him"(9). Clearly, Iago isn't one who admires loyalty. He just admires power. He is willing to do whatever he can to obtain power.
To answer Briona question i think Iago is best for the job instead of power hungry because he point out the fact that Cassio hasn't had any experience. So who would want a person like Cassio with any war experience . For example in the text it states "But he sir had th election; and i of whom his eyes had seen the proof at Rhodes at Cyprus and on grounds Christened and heathen"(55).This showing how Iago is saying he is best for the job since he had experience with many wars that happen in the past .Where as Cassio didn't and lago would have more knowledge to help out in a war because of his experiences with other wars.
DeleteGood question, Brionna. Also good job presenting a different viewpoint, Jasmine. 15/15
DeleteIs Iago jealous of Othello?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion Iago is very jealous of Othello and wants others to disapprove of him as much as he does. For instance Iago goes to Brabantio to warn him of Othello and is daughter and uses insulting language to better bribe him to be against him. The text states,"your daughter and the Moor are (now) making the beast with two backs. Thou art a villain"(13). Iago works for Othello yet he still talks about him badly to others and wants others to be against him.
Do you think Iago would try to do something like kill Cassio to get him out the way.
ReplyDeleteI believe Iago would try to kill Cassio or will have him set up because he believe he has all the skills to be Othello lieutenant instead of Cassio. For example in the text it states "that never set a squadron in the field, Nor the division of battles..I of whom his eyes had seen the proof At Rhondes,at Cypru and on on grounds. Iago feels some type of way that Cassio is the lieutenant but doesn't know much about war or nothing which make me come to the conclusion that Iago will they to kill Cassio .
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DeleteSince Othello is viewed as the outsider and different, how is he receiving the most highest honor in the army?
ReplyDeleteOthello is viewed by Iago and Roderigo as a Barbary horse and a black ram which shows to most people his skin color is quite different from the rest. However, Othello is some how the leader of the army and has to appoint a lieutenant to be under him. Othello has the highest position in the army but yet he is viewed as an outsider. Iago states, " If I do not. Three great ones of the city. In personal suit to make me his lieutenant, Off-capped to him; and, by the faith of man. I know my price, I am worth no worse a place " (7). To clafly, Iago wanted to be the lieutenant who would work alongside Othello in the army. However, Othello picked Michael Cassio to be the lieutenant. Which shows how usually people who are viewed different and an outsider are cast down in society but yet even for Othello to be different he some how holds the highest power in the army.
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DeleteWhy is race such a big deal in Venice ?
ReplyDeleteDesdemona and othello elope because they arent allowed to marry because othello is black and Desdemona's father doesn't want them to marry. On page 17 barbanto states, "Stirke on the tinder, ho! Give me a taper. Call up all my people. This accident is not unlike my dream. Belief of it oppresses me already. Light, I say, Light !" When Barbanto finds out about the eloping he is furious and he sends out his people to find Othello.
What evidence do you have that his anger is due to Othello's race? 12/15
DeleteSince race or racism is hidden but still brought up during this time of Othello, but do you think that the form of racism we have today is evident in Othello, and do you think this moment marks the form of raicsm?
ReplyDeleteI think that in "Othello" race is more hidden but not fully accepted. For example Othello is a general that is rank in a higher position and is not faced with threats and untolerance by the citizens yet. But I think this is manily because race during this time isn't such a hatred topic since blacks were accepted and not so much seen as ignoble in society. But even though blacks are accepted they are still ridculed in society. For example amongst the few pages we read in class Rodriego tells Brabanito about his daughter sleeping with Othello.But, he describes Othello as animal like, and the form of racism comes up amongst these pages. So racism is hidden but still evident during this time and also I think during this time period this is when racism is introduced.
Interesting analysis of how historical time period might have played into the conflicts in the play. 14/15
DeleteWhy is it such a big deal that Othello and Desdemona are married?
ReplyDeleteIt is a big deal that they are married because Othello and Desdemona didn't have permission to get married from her father. Iago, Othello's servant or assistant began to plot against Othello because he believed that he deserved the position of lieutenant. Because Othello gave the position to Cassio, Iago seeks revenge. In seeking revenge, he decides to tell Rodrigo, Desdemona's ex that she and Othello are married without the permission of her father, "look to your house, your daughter, and your bags! Thieves, thieves! sir your are robbed... Your heart is burst. You have lost half your soul" (13). Rodrigo and Iago inform Desdemona's father that she is now married and the way that they presented it to him was in such a way that made it seem as if he had been robbed. Desdemona's father disapproves of this union.
Good analysis of how Desdamona is treated as property. 15/15
DeleteWhat is problem that Lago has with Othello and does he do anything about it?
ReplyDeleteThe issue Iago has with Othello is that he's upset with the fact that Othello has the high position. The high position is being officer and Iago feels that he is right for being officer since he's been apart of a battle. Since Othello has had no experience he shouldn't be officer. Othello is in love with Desdemona, Iago needs help with killing Othello and knowing Roderigo is in love with her is willing to do anything to have her back, Iago uses Roderigo as he's partner in crime. Iago says to Rodgeigo "Call her father. Rouse him. Make after him...As it may lose some color."(line 74-80). Both Iago and Roderigo had their way of getting what they want. Iago would go to her father and get the guards and swords ready for Othello and get that position, as to Roderigo looking as a hero by helping taking Othello down for the daughter of Barbantio and getting her to fall in love with him.
You are confusing Othello and Cassio. Make sure the text supports your assertions by proofreading before submitting. 10/15
DeleteWhy is Iago choosing not to quit the Military Service ?
ReplyDeleteIago is choosing not to quit because he wants to take advantage of Venice. Iago taking advantage of Venice allows him to become in control. Iago believes that all people in charge should not be obeyed. Iago wants to be apart of The Military service so that he can keep a watchful eye of what is going on with the soldiers as well as the lieutenant. He states,"O sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn upon him. We cannot all be masters, nor all masters Cannot be truly followed"(Line 45). Iago is plotting revenge. He is upset that he was not chosen. He wants to get Venice back for not picking him to be lieutenant. He believes the only way to do this is by pretending to be with him rather then against him.
You make a few different assertions in the first few sentences of this response. Choose one to focus on to make your response more focused. 13/15
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ReplyDeletewhy doesn't brabantio like othello ?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio doesn't like othello because he doesn't think othello is someone that is good enough to date Desdemona. Due to the way othello looks and where he is from he isn't the ideal person brabantio wants his daughter to marry. Brabantio believes that ohello has placed a spell on his daughter that has made her marry him. This tells us that brabantio doesn't believe it'strue love between othello and Desdemona. In the text it states , "If she in chains of magic were not bound ," (25). Brabantio thinks that the only reason Desdemona is even interested in him is because he has cast a spell on her and once she realize exactly what he is doing she will no longer be intrested in him because he isn't someone Desdemona will marry or be with.
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DeleteWhat is Iago's Problem with Othello?
ReplyDeleteIago doesn't like Othello because he feels that he deserves the spot that Othello is in. And to add insult to injury, Othello appointed Iago as his assistant. He said, "And I...must be beleed and calmed... [as] his Moorship's Ancient" (9). Iago is a wonderful soldier and general. This is the fact that pushes him to want a promotion. He would've had it too if it wasn't for Othello. He probably be less salty if Othello gave him a position that exemplifies his level of expertise. However, he was made a mere assistant. Iago's problem with Othello is that he wants a high enough position that demands respect.
Try and introduce some new analysis that hasn't already been introduced. 13/15
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ReplyDeleteThe tone of this scene is bitter and angry. The bitter and angry tones can be seen throughout the speech when Roderigo says that Cassio is a man "that never set a squadron in the field, nor the division of a battle knows" (Shakespeare 7). This line shows Iago's bitterness and anger toward Cassio because Iago feels as if Othello should have chosen him to be his lieutenant. He indeed feels betrayed because all he is now is a servant who has devoted his life to Othello but has gotten nothing in return.
Good job being proactive and sending in one of the first responses. 15/15
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ReplyDeleteIn the opening of the play Shakespeare introduces an allusion to the devil through Iago. In the bible it is said that God stated “I am what I am”. The opposite is stated by Iago who states, “I am not what I am” (11). Iago shows to be nice and supportive to Othello but in reality only wants to harm him and take his position. The devil was said to be the same way. He was opposite of what he made others think he was. Their intentions are similar and both are contradicting to Gods words. God was good and showed exactly what others had to see of him. Since Iago states something that is similar but contradicting to Gods word, as well as the devil being the opposite of God, the reader is introduced to an allusion by Shakespeare through Iago.
Delete15/15 good analysis of allusion.
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