Come up with a question and a CCEJ response to something you noticed in the rest of Act 1 Scene 1. You may want to use No Fear Shakespeare to help you understand the text.
REMEMBER ALL QUOTES MUST BE IN SHAKESPEARE'S ELIZABETHAN ENGLISH -- NOT THE MODERN ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS.
REMEMBER ALL QUOTES MUST BE IN SHAKESPEARE'S ELIZABETHAN ENGLISH -- NOT THE MODERN ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS.
Alicia Roberts
ReplyDeleteWhat does Roderigo mean in the quote "(Tush), never tell. I take it much unkindly that thou, Iago, who hast had my purse As if the strings were thine, Shoudst know of this,"
In my opinion, Roderigo was referring to Iago. He was trying to say that like Come on, Iago he don't like the fact that there's something Iago knows. All this time he thought him and Iago was such good friends. He allowed him to spend his money as if it was his own money to be going around spending.
Even though you have a quote in your question, you should have a quote in your response. Analyze the issue of trust between Iago and Roderigo further. 10/15
DeleteWhy doesn't Brabantio believe Roderigo?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio doesn't believe Roderigo because he has long been pursuing Desdemona. He would continuously show up to the house but she was not interested. When he and Iago tell him of their eloping, he responds by saying "I have charged thee not to haunt about my doors:
In honest plainness thou hast heard me say
My daughter is not for thee". He is saying that he has told him more than once not to come to his door, and since this isn't the first occurrence, he doesn't believe that he is telling the truth. He thinks he is just there to see her again.
This is tasneem. I didn't realize I was logged into Bianca's account.
DeleteGood summary of what we talked about in class.14/15
DeleteWhy do Iago and Roderigo Wake Brabantio?
ReplyDeleteIago and Roderigo wake Brabantio to get his daughter, Desdemona, and Othello into trouble. If they get into trouble, Brabantio will suspect their marriage and marry her off to someone else he thinks is more responsible than someone who helps his daughter sneak out. Brabantio says to Roderigo, "Are they married, think you?...O, would you had had her!" (19). Brabantio starts to suspect marriage and quickly regrets not giving his daughter to Roderigo for marriage sooner, which is exactly how Roderigo and Iago want him to think so shame will be put on Othello.
I agree with Aisatou Iago and Roderigo purposefully wake Brabantio to try and shame Othello. Iago tells of his plan when he says,"Call up her father.Rouse him. Make after him, poison his delight"(11). Clearly, Iago wants to make Brabantio upset about Othello as much as he is. Waking up Brabantio is not out of pure concern it is a malicious attempt to belittle Othello, to make him seem like less and to decrease the power Iago truly wants.
DeleteThere is not much original analysis outside of what we went over in class. 12/15.
DeleteWhat is Barbantio biggest problem ?
ReplyDeleteBarbantio's biggest probem is that everyone tries to marry his daughter, and she has ran away with a sex crazy black beast. Barbantio does what every it take to stop them men from getting close to his daughter. Barbantio says, "My daughter is not for thee. And now in madness, being full of supper and ditemp'ring draughts" (13). This shows how Barbantio is furious that everyone is trying to join his family by marrying his daughter, but he does whatever it takes to stop all the men from marry her.
It's important to note in your response that this is his opinion of Othello according to the racist way Iago chooses to portray him. Othello's character is not ACTUALLY sex-crazy or a beast. 12/15
DeleteWhy is Brabantio awaken by Iago and Roderigo?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio is awaken by Iago and Roderigo because they claim that Othello has ran away with his daughter Desdamonda. Iago wants Othello to be stopped so that he can be kicked off his throne and Roderigo wants Othello to be stopped so that He can have Desdamonda. Iago and Roderigo tells Brabantio that them two together are dangerous and must be stopped. In the book Iago says, "I am one, sir, That comes to tell you your daughter and the Moor are (now) making the beast with two backs"(line 129-131). Iago and Roderigo basically want to cause trouble for Othello.
Remember Othello is the general, not the King, so he doesn't have a throne. 13/15
DeleteTo agree with Ziana , i'd like to add the fact that Iago & Roderigo would come up with these bizarre stories , one of which he said there were robbers that we're coming for Brabantio and he should be alarmed and "leave" his own home and are. In the text is states", Iago: are your doors locked? ...Sir, you're robbed..Brabantio: what tell'st thou me of robbing" (14/15). Bribantio would constantly question Iago and Roderigo of how they knew of the incident and why they knew and they would constantly make up lies, but Brabrantio knew they were lying which is why he never believed them , besides the fact that they wanted his daughter.
ReplyDelete-My other post is in the first group.
Proofread. This post should be broken up into a few more sentences to make your ideas clearer. They weren't literally talking about robbers, but rather, Desdamona as Brabantio's property. 11/15
DeleteQ: Why does Rodrigo have plans for the death of othello? He still has a goodposition but wasn't chosen to be Othello's lieutenant.
ReplyDeleteA: I think that rodrigo has planned to kill othello because he wasn't chosen to be Othello's lieutenant. He still believe that his hard work and being by othello side, will prove that he should be the lieutenant. Rodrigo was overlooked by Othello for the position, now he wants to kill Othello. I have been overlooked by plenty of times but it don't stop me from still striving towards my goals. While in the beginning of the play, rodrigo and Iago talk about the decisions of Othello and their final thoughts on him. Rodrigo and Iago relationship is very close, they are good friends, they trust each other. Rodrigo: "By heaven, I rather would have been his hangman". Iago:"Why, there's no remedy. Tis the curse of service. Preferment goes by letter and affection, and not by old gradation, where each second stood heir to the first. Now sir, be judge yourself whether I in any just term am affined to love the Moor. Rodrigo: "I would not follow him, then"(9). This quote explains why Rodrigo plans to kill Othello. Rodrigo believe Othello has betrayed him and given up the only thing he wanted and that was to be a lieutenant. Now since he didn't give him the position, Rodrigo will do anything in his will to see Othello dead. I predict that since Rodrigo and Iago are good friends that Iago will help Rodrigo do whatever it takes to let Othello fall to misery.
You are confusing Iago and Roderigo. Proofread to make sure all your info is correct. 11/15
DeleteWhy does Brabantio disagree with his daughter being with Othello?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio is so against his Daughter being with Othello because he did not know about it himself. He feels as if he has been betrayed by his own family. In the book he says, "O treason of the blood! Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds by what you see tem act' (19). Brabantio as a father is upset with his daughter whom h trusted being with a man that he did not know of. Now he is both scared and hurt by what his daughter has done. So he is both angry with her and Othello.
I agree with Saider that Brabantio disagrees with his daughter's marriage with Othello because he feels that their relationship was kept a secret. In the beginning of the story Iago ran to awake Brabantio to warn him that his daughter was dating Othello and he was kind of shocked by the news. He begins to feel like he has been betrayed so he says, "O treason of the blood! Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds by what you see tem act'' (19). Brabantio feels that his daughter was dishonest with him and she should have came to him herself telling him about her relationship with Othello. Overall, Brabantio is hurt and he feels he cannot trust his daughter nor Othello because he does not like that they were not open with him about their marriage.
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DeleteDestiny -- if you are going to agree with another student's post, you must use a different quote and/or introduce a new point in your analysis. 10/15
What deeper idea does the fact that Brabantio believes Iago before having complete evidence demonstrate in the text?
ReplyDeleteThe fact that Brabantio believes Iago before having sufficient evidence shows that in that time period, brotherhood was an important aspect of society. Even though Brabantio questions Iago, it is as if he automatically believes Iago when he yells "Strike on the tinder, ho!..Call up all my people...Belief of it oppresses me already. Light, I say, light!" (17). The father seems as if he is going to suffer from a heart attack even though he doesn't know if his daughter has truly left. He believes Iago rather than defending his own blood. Since women aren't really in the picture during this time period, it is apparent men don't have trust in them. They more so believe in sticking together as men.
Very intelligent consideration of timer period/history. 15/15
DeleteIf in fact Iago doesn't like Othello, why is he still around him?
ReplyDeleteIago still stays around Othello as a stepping stool to get to where he wants to be. He is basically using Othello to get to where he wants to be in life. He isn't loyal to Othello, he pretends to be his friend in order to later betray him. In an excerpt from the text it states, "But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve for daws to peck at. I am not what I am" (11). Iago makes it crystal clear about his intentions toward Othello. He doesn't sugar-coat his motives when speaking with Roderigo. Iago sticks around with Othello to later override or use him.
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DeleteWhat is the significance of the quote "Though I do I hate him as I do hell pains, Yet, for necessity of present life, I must show out a flag and sign of love..."?
ReplyDeleteThis quote basically shows the phoniness of Iago. Around Othello, he will be as loving and caring as he could. But when the tables are turned, he has hatred for him like in this paticular scene with him and Roderigo. He says, "...which is indeed but sign. That you shall surely find him. Lead to the Sagittary the raised search" (17). This not only brings up the jealous tone among these characters, but hatred as well against Othello.
how does brabintio feels about his daughter marrying othello ?
ReplyDeleteHe tells him straight up that he is not marrying her . He is laready upset that she ran away now here he comes trying to marry her. In the text it states " My daughter is not for thee." he means that my daughter is not an option. he is infroming othello that he is not marrying his daughter. He doesnt even like his kind of race so the doesn want his dauhgter to be with an "barbary horse" this is from othellos land in which he is from africa so them not being together is all about there racist as well.
That's directed to Roderigo, not Othello. Quote doesn't fit claim. 8/15
DeleteDo you think that Brabantio is over protective of his daughter? Or is that he does not trust Othella with her?
ReplyDeleteI think that Brabantio is very protective of his daughter and he doesn't trust Othello. As soon as Iago claimed that Brabantio's daughter was "making a beast with two backs" with Othello, Branbantio got extremely offensive, saying "Strike on the tinder, ho! Give me a taper. Call up all my people. This accident is not unlike my dream. Belief of it oppresses me already" (17). Yet, this also shows that Brabantio has been anticipating this type of news, since he's had dreams about it, showing he never trusted Othello.
Why does Othello and Desdemona even keep their relationship a secret from her father?
ReplyDeleteOthello seems more of a higher ranked and overall better man than Desdemona's ex Roderigo. If Roderigo seemed unfit for Desdemona, why would Othello be unfit. Roderigo brainwashed Desdemona's father Brabantio to think his daughter is in great danger with dating a Moor. Roderigo states, " Sir, I will answer anything. But I beceech you.. As partly I find it is- that your fair daughter, at this odd-even and dull watch o'th' night...If this be known to you, and your allowance, we then have done you bold and saucy wrongs" (15). To clarify, Roderigo is telling him if the father is ok with his daughter being with a moor named Othello then he will leave him alone. However, this puts the father in the position to not be ok with it. Showing how it would have been best if Desdemona told her father she was with Othello, so lies wouldn't brainwash her father to think she was with a dangerous different man.
In response to Samiyah, I agree.
ReplyDeleteIago is only around Othello in order to get what he wants. Iago tells Rodrigo that he hated Othello because he didn't make him his lieutenant. Iago feel that he should be more than just a simple assistant. Iago specifically says " I follow him to serve my turn upon him " (9). This meaning that he is only still with Othello to get revenge on him for not giving him what he wants. Iago is a very manipulative character.
13/15 Aim for a deeper analysis
DeleteWhat kind of relationship do Brabantio and his daughter have ?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio and his daughter relationship is distant and untruthful. His daughter lie to him rather then telling him the truth about what goes on in her life. She is afraid of him judging her as well as him judging Othello. Othello is black which makes matters at hand even worst. In his eyes it is forbidden for her to be with him . The others in the scene makes matters worse. He states,"It is too true an evil. Gone she is. And what’s to come of my despised time Is naught but bitterness. Now, Roderigo, Where didst thou see her?—Oh, unhappy girl!—
With the Moor, say’st thou?—Who would be a father?— How didst thou know ’twas she?—Oh, she deceives me... Are they married, think you" (160-165 lines). Barbantio wants to know where his daughter is. He hopes that she did not go and marry. Him and his daughter lacks communication. He fails to listen to her as well as knowing where she is at different times of the day and night. His daughter doesn't tell him the truth and keeps secrets from him as well.
I agree that Brabantio and his daughter's relationship is distant. Desdemona doesn't feel comfortable with telling her father about her personal life. This is seen when Iago and Roderigo had to run and tell Brabantio about the marriage between his daughter and Othello. Iago shouts at Brabantio saying, "Awake! Thieves, thieves... an old black ram is tupping your white ewe" (13). This shows how Iago had to go tell Brabantio about his daughter's marriage, since she didn't tell him herself. Desdemona feels like she doesn't have to tell her father, but he ends up finding out anyway. However, when he approaches Desdemona, she admits that her and Othello are married. Therefore I will disagree that their relationship is untruthful because Desdemona never lied to her father.
DeleteGood responses both of you -- interesting question, Bryanah! 15/15
DeleteAs a connection to Julius Caesar, do you think Othello will find out close to the end that Iago is the enemy, the same as Caesar soon realized that his close friend or advisors were his enemy?
ReplyDeleteI think that Othello will find out in the end and have a downfall. I think that Iago will try to take Othello's posiiton and then take back his revenge on him by forcing Desdemona to marry him and have status and power. But just like Caesar Othello isn't going to know that Iago isn't trustworthy until the end. I also think that just like in Caesar how their is a fortune teller that tells Caesar of his death, Cassio might try to warn Othello, since he appionted Cassio as his lead man. For example in the book it states, "I follow him to serve my turn upon him"(9). This means that Iago wants revenge and will do anything necessary to gain Othello's trust in order to betray him.
GREAT CONNECTION! 15/15
DeleteWhy does brabantio want roderigo to have his daughter's hand?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio feels as though roderigo should have desdemona's hand due to the fact that he can trust him and he isn't othello. In the act, when discovering that desdemona is gone and that roderigo has been telling the truth brabantio makes the statement that"o,would you had had her!"(19). Brabantio feels as though desdemona wouldn't have went against her father's wishes and married othello if he had only listened to roderigo. She would still be at the house and not in the hands of the moor.
He says the opposite -- "I've told you my daughter is not for thee!" 8/15
DeleteRODERICK C:
ReplyDeleteIn this scene you are able to see some of the sneaky charateristics of Iago. Though they are not blaintly put out there here you are able to see how Iago feels about Othello as well as other things. This is shown in the scene where it states, " Though I do hate him as I do hell Yet, for necessity if present life, I must show out a flag and sign of love" (line 171-173). This shows how Iago is being sneaky because though he really dislikes Othello he has to act as if they are friends, so he is able to carry out the true nature of his plan.
Proofread for errors in grammar and spelling. 12/15
DeleteMILAN B:
ReplyDeleteExplain what you think Iago feels towards Othello.
I think that Iago is envious of Othello. He believes that if he were to be in Othello's position, he would do a much better job than him. He thinks that Othello gives off a bad examples and ignores all of Iago's requests. It says in the book, "But he, as loving his own pride and purposes, evades them with a bombast circumstance, horribly stuffed with epithets of war, (And in conclusion,)" This shows that I ago believes Hamlet is not the right leader and that he feels he can be a better leader than Hamlet.
Hamlet? Please proofread! 12/15
DeleteMARY E:
ReplyDeleteWhat is Rodrigo gaining from making Othello look bad ?
Rodrigo is making Othello look bad so he can convince Desdemona father that he deserves his daughter. Rodrigo always wanted to marry Desdemona , but Othello took her from him. Now his telling her father so his father feels as though that Othello is no good for his daughter. In the book states, " As partly i find it is - that your fair daughter, at this odd even and dull watch o' th' night, transporter with no worse nor better guard "(15). Rodrigo is here trying to tell Desdemona father that her daughter escape with Othello something he didn't want. Therefore, Rodrigo uses such event to make Othello look bad for taking Desdemona with him and not letting her father know. This is the opportunity to show Desdemona father that he is the best candidate for Desdemona and not Othello who does things behind her fathers back. He will gain Desdemona and her fathers respect at the same time for telling her father.
Good question. 15/15
DeleteAshlei Daniels
ReplyDeleteMay 18, 2014
period 2
In Othello, why was Iago so upset that Cassio was Othello's officer instead of him?
I think Iago was upset because he probably felt as thought he knew Othello maybe longer than Cassio and maybe was just expecting it was going to be him. In the text it says, "I have already chose my officer. And what was he? Forsooth, a great artithmetician (7)". This shows how Iago could have possibly felt some type of way because he thought that he was closest to Othello and Othello would just make him his officer based off their friendship.
TANIA W:
ReplyDelete1. Due to the fact that the king is believing Roderigo do you think that he will try to force desdemona to be with him?
I think that do to who des is with now, some one who is much older & of the opposite race, her father would try & force des to be with Roderigo. The king didn't want des to be with rod, but now, in this situation, the king thinks that rod wouldn't be as bad as he thought. "-O, would you had had her!- Some one way, some another." (19) this quote shows that the king think that rod would have been better for des. Only because the king is now comparing rod to othello, if othello was of the same race & age, the king wouldn't have had a problem with it.
2. Do you think that Iago would be faithful toward Roderigo once he gets what he wants out of this plan?
I think that Iago dose thing for personal gain, I don't think that he was ever faithful towards rod. Once Iago gets his position he would leave rod behind, maybe he would do something, to rod, to keep their plan a secret. "Farewell, for I must leave you. It seems not meet nor wholesome to my place" (17) Iago leaves fate the king agrees to speak and see them, Iago doesn't want to be seen by the king. In this quote it shows how Iago feels about his position, he wants to go back to othello and tell him what rod have said to the king. Iago wants to make it seem that he had no part in this at all. Iago want to pin everything on Roderigo, so Iago can get what he wants in the end.
SHAYDAIH
ReplyDeleteWhat is one thing that stick out to you in the book Othello ?
One thing that stick out to me in this book is the racist topic. I notice That characters Iago and Roderigo are always saying something racist whenever they speak of Othello . In the book When Iago was talking about how Othello daughter should go with a animal because he's black (15). This shows how Iago is so evil and racist .
You must have an actual text quote, not just a summary. 10/15
DeleteAMINAH:
ReplyDeleteRacism plays a major role in Othello because of all the racist comments made towards Othello from Iago. Iago makes racist comments about him due to fact he is jealous of him. Othello is a African man who has a high position in society, whereas Iago is the assistant. With that being said, Iago feel as though he shouldn't be an assistance and calls Othello out his name saying he's a "Barbary horse...an old black ram..." (Shakespeare 11-13). From this quote, it proves how Iago is racist. Iago only uses this tone to describe Othello because of his jealously towards him. Therefore, from this, it proves how racism is portrayed in the text. If Iago wasn't jealous of Othello, then he wouldn't have talked bad about him. If he didn't talk bad about Othello, then racism wouldn't have been portrayed in the text.
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DeleteTYIESHA:
ReplyDeleteWhy does Brabantio react how he does when he hears the news about his daughter and Othello getting married rather than supporting them?
Brabantio reacts how he does because he doesn't want those two to be together. It is more because of the race that he is. In the book, Othello is considered a Moor which is a racial slur used towards him. Him and Desdemona, Brabantio's daughter eloped. Her father states, "Where didst thou see her?... With the Moor, sayst thou?... O, she deceives me (19)". This quote points out how he's more against the marriage because of the fact that Othello is a Moor. He refers to him as the racial slur rather than his actual name. Brabantio doesn't support their marriage since he isn't of a race that is accepted in their century.
ZAKEYYAH:
ReplyDeletewhere does lago hatred for othello comes from ?
Iago hatred against Othello develops because he gives the position of being lieutenant to Officer Cassie. Iago felt like Othello was wrong for that because Iago felt that he was good enough to be lieutenant. Iago states, "I know my price, I am worth no worse a place". Iago's telling Roderigo that he know his worth and what he's capable of and therefore his hatred towards Othello develops and he tells on Othello about his affairs to get back at Othello.
Why doesnt Brabantio believe his daughter's having an affair with Othello?
Barbantio doesnt believe his daughter is having an affair because he knew nothing about their relationship. In the beginning of the play Iago ran to Brabantio to tell the secret of his daughter and othello's affair, just to get back at Othello. Iago awakens Brabantio, "sir, you're robbed... Your heart is burst. You have lost half your soul". Iago's telling Brabantio his daughter has been taken away from him.
15/15 + extra credit for two posts
DeleteWhy is Roderigo really so distraught?
ReplyDeleteRoderigo is distraught because he wants and loves Desdemona, but he now understands that she is with Othello. After talking to Iago Roderigo temporarily loses hope in being with Desdemona once and for all. After extensively talking to Iago, Iago convinces Roderigo and gives him false hope that eventually Desdemona will make herself available to him. In an excerpt from the text it states, "She must change for youth. When she is sated with his body she will find the error of her choice" (53). Roderigo was close to killing himself because he felt so helpless and hopeless in regards to Desdemona and Othello. Iago then gives him falso hope that once she is finish using Othello for sex, she'll come to Roderigo. He makes it seem like it isn't true love and that Desdemona is just using Othello.
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ReplyDeleteHow do you think Brabantio felt after finding out about his daughter and Othello's marriage?
ReplyDeleteI think Brabantio felt betrayed by his daughter because she didn't tell him about her marriage. Not only that, he's her father and had to find out from someone else. When Iago and Roderigo first told him the news, he didn't believe them. He believed his daughter wouldn't do such thing or go behind his back and get married. After a while Brabantio believed them and sent out people to search for Othello. Brabantio states, "Give me a taper. Call up all my people" (17). This shows how Brabantio wanted people to find Othello so he can know the truth about his daughter. However, when Othello was approached by Brabantio, he admitted the truth and Desdemona agreed. Brabantio felt like he should have known first because his daughter basically went behind his back.
13/15 good analysis but a little repetitive
DeleteWhat does Desdemona words show about her?
ReplyDeleteDesdemona words shows that she will respect her father, however not be limited by his words. Her father does not want her and Othello together, however she respects her father enough to tell her point of view about her love for Othello. When confronting her father, she quotes "How to respect you , you are the lord of duty.I am hitherto your daughter. But here's my husband."(41). She honor her father, however she loves her husband Othello. She knows that her father does not want her with Othello, however he words show that she has much respect for her father but will not be limited by him when it comes to who she loves
Do you think Brabanto is racist ?
ReplyDeleteBrabantio is racist and is upset that his daughter is marring a black man. Brabantio doesn't want to accept the fact that his daughter want to be with Othello and believe Othello has put a curse on her because he's black and she turned down many men thats was wealthy and from her country. For example in the text it states " Run from her guard age to the sooty bosom of such a thing as thou to fear not to delight...that thou hast practiced on her with foul charms, abused her delicate youth with drugs"(27). This is shown how Brabantio is racist because he didn't believe that his daughter would be with a dirty black men and she should have fear of him because he is black.And believe that Othello drug his daughter into wanting to be with him because of his skin color.
14/15 good analysis but a little repetitive.
DeleteExplain what you think Iago feels towards Othello.( in response to Milan B)
ReplyDeleteI agree that Iago feels that Othello is unfit for the job of general. Not beacuse he is envious of him, but because he choose Cassio to be his second-in-command and he is not fit for it such position. In a soliloquy by Iago he says" The moor [Othello] is of free and open nature, That thinks men honest that but seem to be so"(442-443). Iago is saying that Othello is blind because he believes that men, who are not honest, is honest because they look the part. This can be infered that Iago thinks that Othello makes bad decisions, like pick Cassio for making second-in-command, causeing him to be unfit for the job.
Great! Extra credit. + 15
DeleteWhat do Desdemona actions tell about her character?
ReplyDeleteDesdemona is someone who follow her heart even though she is hurting someone in the process. For example her father is very upset that she married Othello, but she told her father that she have to follow her heart and her choose is to stay with Othello and that he love him but she cant stop who she love. In the text she says to her father " I am hitherto your daughter. But here's my husband" (41). Desdemona love Othello and love her father as well, but she choose to remain loyal to he husband because that is what her heart wants.
Good original question and response. 15/15
DeleteOthello is confident in what he has done for his people therefore thinks that regardless of what others have to say he will always have a good reputation and will always be able to maintain his position. He is told by Iago that Desdemona’s father is going to talk bad about him to his people. Othello responds by stating, “my services which I have done the signiory shall out-tongue his complaints” (21). Othello reassures Iago that he knows what he has done and that nothing will be able to impact the people’s opinion of his actions, for actions speak louder than words. Since Othello shows no fear or threat when Iago tries to exaggerate the situation, he proves to be sure of what he has done and therefore very confident. Othello’s confidence serves him as a big advantage further on in the text.
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