Destiny, Rea, Chantel, Paula, Aisatou -- use this space to begin your discussion of Divergent. You are responsible for reading the first 10 pages, asking a good Level 4 question, and answering it in CCEJ. You may also add on (new evidence) or disagree with another group member's post.
What is one theme evident in the first 10 pages?
ReplyDeleteThe importance of race is one theme that is evident in the first 10 pages. The embryos are made as one race in order to create a society that it one identical race. Mr. Foster says, to the students, "But then they have unfair advantages. You should see the way a negro ovary responds to pituitary!"(9). From this discussion, it seems that Mr. Foster is working to eliminate black twins and any race that is not Caucasian. If he eliminates all the other races to create a dominant one, he feels that he will be successful in beating Mombasa in embryos created because he then can use the eggs of other races and change the race as the embryo is growing.
Question: Do you think that based on the first 10 pages, that the dystopia within "Brave New World" is based on technology?
DeleteAnswer: Based on the first 10 pages, I do believe that the dystopia that this book is based around do depend on technology. I think that it is based solely around technology because of the reason they use tech to produce multiple offspring at one time. "Brave New World"states, "solved by standard Gammas, unvarying Deltas, unifor Epsilons. Millions of identical twins. The principle of mass production at last applied to biology" (7). This quote shows how the dystopia is based on technology because instead of using humans to produce offspring, that instead are using the wide strand of technology available to them to produce twin offspring.
What Seems To Be The Primary Purpose Of Bokanovsky's Process In This Society?
ReplyDeleteBokanovsky's process creates multiple embryos of identical twins from one egg. It's purpose seems to be to create multiple humans to dominate the world in order to start a completely new race of human beings. Mr. Foster starts saying, "'We decant our babies as socialized human beings, as Alphas or Epsilons, as future sewage workers or future...' He was going to say 'future World controllers' but [corrected] himself"(13). The major purpose of this process is to create genetically manipulated people who will exceed the abilities of the current human race and take over the world to assure that everyone in this world will be as superior as they will soon be.
I agree with the response that Aisatou had provided because of the fact that to this point of the book, the narrator has been providing information about the Bokanovsky Process and the while idea behind trying to determine which social class is bound to be better than the other one and who outta bound to looking one another. "Brave New World" states, "Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read and write ...I'm so glad I'm a Beta" (27). This quote shows how not only did the Bokanovsky Process want to make others superior from those who may have seen add undesirable, but they also wanted the different caste systems, Betas, Epsilons, Delta, and Gammas to learn to dislike one anotherand learn to stay away from each other.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think they want the children to play difficult games?
ReplyDeleteThe direcor and his student went to the garden during playtime to watch the children play. A group of children was playing a game of Centrifugal Bumble-puppy. The object of the game was to catch the ball while being tossed and thrown through diffrent obstacles round a steel tower. While they was playing it the directer said" strange to think that even in Our Ford's day most games were played without more appartus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting..... nowadays the Controllers won't approve of any new games unless it can be shown that it requires at least as much apparatus as the most complicated of existing games" (31). I think they do this because they want to children to be smarter than pass generations and also so they can become use to being in contact with cetains tools or get use to certains skills that they will have to use in the future.
In my opinion, they want the children the children to play difficult games to test how they respond to them and relate it to real life. Also, using the same quote from the director saying "strange to think that even in our fords day most games were played without more appartus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting". This quote is significant because it shows how low-tech things were during this time period so in some cases the children feel like those games were better. They had no idea of high tech things are.
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ReplyDeleteQuestion: What is one problem you think has been constant within Brave New World?
Answer: A problem I think has been constant within Brave New World is the fact that girls are talked into or peer pressured into being sexually active with more than one person within the society. Within this society, they think that everybody belongs to everybody. Also meaning that if a girl was to date a boy, that boy is allowed to have sex with other girls and vis versa. The text states, "'He has other girls, doesn't he?'...'it's not as though there were anything painful or disagreeable about having one or two men besides Henry. And seeing that you ought to be a little more promiscuous'" (43). Though this is not the only time when someone was forced/ pressured into being promiscuous with more than one person, this is the start in the book that began that trend. I came to believe that this was a problem within the society of Brave New World because I think that someone should be able to decide for themselves if they would want to have multiple sex partners and not others trying to force/ or pressure them into having sex with more than one person.
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Question: So far, what do you think makes the society in Brave New World a dystopian society?
Answer: So far, I think that based on what I have read, what I think makes the society in Brave New World is the fact that the government/ society humiliates anybody within the society that says anything or do anything that goes against what they believe in. Within Brave New World, it is foreign for a child to speak of or anyone to say that they have a mother or father. And if they was to say they have parents, then they were seen as weird and/ or crazy. For example it states, "all uppercaste London was wild to see the delicious creature who had fallen on his knees before the Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning...and called him (the joke was almost too good to be true) 'my father'"(153). This makes the society in Brave New World a dystopian society because I think that a good society is to accept new things and anything that may seem weird to them because they are not use that type of situation. And in this particular society, that does not happen at all. Instead, they frown upon and make fun of people that exhibits or seems foreign since they think for one to say that they have parent(s) is a joke and nothing to take seriously /or insulting.