While we watch the film Minority Report you should post two responses to the discussion, analyzing what you notice in the film. Come up with a discussion question about the movie and answer it in a CCEJ paragraph. Obviously you will not quote directly from the film, but you should paraphrase evidence to back up your claim.
REMEMBER -- CLAIMS SHOULD BE FOCUSED AND SPECIFIC.
THEY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR ARGUMENT.
REMEMBER -- CLAIMS SHOULD BE FOCUSED AND SPECIFIC.
THEY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR ARGUMENT.
Iziah Phillips
ReplyDeleteThe film that we watched today in English class was called "Minority Report" and this movie was a clear example of dystopia. The scene we watched today showed how the system that they used to prevent crimes actually worked. Based on the film the officer prevented the criminal from killing her cheating wife.Then in a split second the officer prevented the criminal from killing the wife. This shows that coming up with an idea such as this can help prevent killings from happening. My question is if Newark had a system like this would it really help decrease the crime rate based on the film?
I believe that if Newark came up with a system such as this shown in the movie "Minority Report" Newark would be a whole lot safer than it is now. In the movie is showed a propaganda that had people saying that this system actually worked. A woman that was selected to be in the commercial that she was almost raped. then she said that lucky the officers came to her rescue a minute before the situation was about to go down. This shows that if this system can help prevent a girl from getting raped it can also help prevent people from getting shot, raped, jumped, and maybe committing suicide.
DeleteBoth responses do not fully prove your claims. You don't explain in the first post how it was "a clear example of a dystopia," and in the second point you don't explain why Newark would be safer with this system. 22/30
DeleteIs this way of life moral?
ReplyDeleteThe system of stopping a person before they commit murders is moral, but the system of arresting the person before they commit the murder and charging them for murder is immoral. The objective of this system is to save lives, not destroy them. In the beginning of the movie, the man was arrested and the crime was referred to as "the future murder of Sarah Marks." If the man was stopped from committing the murder, then he didn't need to be arrested because the objective of stopping him was already fulfilled. It is unfair to ruin someone's life for a murder that they haven't completely fulfilled yet because they didn't actually do the crime yet. This should teach them a lesson about the consequences of harming people rather than take away their freedom for something they haven't done yet.
I agree that the system of charging people before they commit a crime is immoral. In the movie, Minority Report, the plant lady said that there was a possibility that the people arrested didn't commit the future crimes that they were arrested for. Although the possibly was small, people shouldn't be arrested for future crimes. The police would be taking away People's freedom for things that they possibly didn't do. I also agree that it isn't necessary for the police to arrest people for crimes they didn't do yet. They should be penalized or given consequences but not have their freedom taken away.
DeleteI disagree, both the act of stopping crime before it happens and arresting those who we're going to commit the crime are moral. In "Minority Report" the pre-cogs could only see what the person would have actually done, not what they might have done. If these people had not been stopped prior to committing these crimes, there would have been way more murders in their city. Arresting these people prevents them from even thinking about murdering anyone else.
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DeleteAll good points. Aisatou -- well worded question and eloquent answer. 15/15
DeleteDaija -- good example to add on. 14/15
Ariana -- explanation could benefit from more development (you didn't address Daija's point about the minority reports meaning some people are innocent). 13/15
What I noticed in "Minority Report" is how rare it was for an actual crime to occur because the FBI or police officials could always see future crimes. However, in real life we know that this is not possible. This is the one major part of the film that I obviously disagree with. In the film, there were three people "soaking" in water with wires connected to them, which allowed them to share their visions of these future crimes with those who cannot see it. This is not humanly possible and humans, in my opinion, cannot determine their own fate. People cannot stop everything they view as wrong or negative from happening, as they do in the film. In real life, you also cannot arrest someone from a crime they haven't committed yet.
ReplyDeleteI agree because in real life you can't change the future by changing the effect of people's choices. In the movie,protagonist tom cruise after shopping the crime he obtained drugs from a eyeless man. Even though he stopped crime from happening he still made a choice to take the drug even though he is a pre-crime cop and he could potentially be a threat in the future. You can't change everything in society because nothing will ever change at all.
DeleteSamiyah -- this is not really a high level comment or question. Since the genre is science fiction, we must suspend disbelief and assume that this is possible in the world of the movie. Obviously it is not possible in real life. 11/15
DeleteAsia: Your response is confusing. What do you mean, " You can't change everything in society because nothing will ever change at all" and what does that have to do with your claim?
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DeleteHow does John Anderton's perception of pre-cime change throughout the film now that he's a suspect?
ReplyDeleteBefore in the film Minority Report John really liked the system of pre-crime and was persuading one of his partners that pre-crime is really helpful and prevents bad things from happening. Now since John is a suspect, he is now not liking how the system is set up and is trying to resist arrest and run from his problem. Earlier in the film " Minority Report" John used a ball as a example to explain how the precrime system works. The man from the justice department caught the ball before it even fell which showed that you can be certain something can happen and prevent it. An example from later on the film will be John trying to escape from the precrime cops by saying that they all run but before when he was not the suspect he was telling other suspects not to run or try to escape. These two examples show how his whole perspective changed on the system.
I don't think that John being a suspect causes him to disapprove of the pre-crime system. John thought very highly of the system. After he was thought of as suspect, he wanted to know more about the system. The lady that created precrime said that, " It's funny how all living organism are alike. When the chip are down, when the pressure is on, every creature on the face of the earth is interested in one thing and one thing only; its own survival." This was why he was began to run. Once he learned that the system wasn't perfect and that he put away innocent people, he started to distrust the pre-crime system
DeleteI disagree with the above comment made by Maalika Hudson claiming that John being a suspect didn't cause him to disapprove of the pre-crime system. John did in fact think very highly of the system, but that was before he became a fugitive due to a vision of him possibly committing a murder. Once he knew that he was a fugitive or suspected of possibly committing a murder, John Anderton began to understand that there was a flaw in the system since he was being suspected and he had no intention of killing anyone. He is actually disapproving of the system and is now running away from imprisonment long enough to prove that there is an existing flaw in the system. In the film "Minority Report" John is running from the precrime cops and he actually has a procedure done to change his eyes so that the spyder robots wouldn't be able to identify him via retina., but earlier told suspects that they weren't supposed to run or to try and get away. This one fact clearly shows how John Anderton has now a lack of faith in the accuracy of the precrime system which all initiated from Agatha's differing vision of a crime. John Anderton is disapproving of the pre-crime system now that he has been aware of the existing flaw.
DeleteNamir -- office hours, great job 15/15
DeleteTianna -- Good response. 15/15
Naheem -- Good counter argument 15/15
Why is the pre-crime cops trying to arrest John when he is trying to make a point that the justice system is corrupted?
ReplyDeleteI think that the pre-cime cops won't undertsand why they are arresting him even if he doesn't do the murder.John wants to do right which I don't blame him. John trying to show that the jusitce system is corrupted by the goverment. I think that the this world in Minority Report is a distopia world of nothing but violence, lies, corrupted ideas that make that world like it is now. The pre-crime cops can't stop any, but can fight for him if they understood his pain and the set up that has been brought upon him. John Andersand as a rebel mean a symbolb of a break through to a utopia world.
Baleegh McCrimmon
DeleteIn reply to Alvin's question: The only reason why the cops tried to arrest him is because its the law. But they don't know that the person that will eventually "do'" the action they can change before it happens. That guy that wanted his job kept trying to find dirt on John to either arrest him, or take his job. Little do they know there is a minority report out there that explains it all, most of the people in jail probably wouldn't have committed that crime the pre cods showed. He was trying to make the point that he is innocent and most of the people put away were innocent as well.
I think that the pre-crime cops are trying to arrest John Anderton because it's the law. Though Anderton know that the justice system is corrupted, the pre-crime cops and even society as a whole have become so accustomed and used to living with this "Pre-crime Law" that they overlook Anderton's claims. Maybe if Amderton's team had agreed that he was innocent, or even took the slightest insight on why Anderton was even committing a murder when he's obviously against it, it would have been overlooked because in this time the law is very strict and even if the pre-cogs weren't 100% correct while determining the future.
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I think that the pre-crime cops are trying to arrest John because that is there job. They are told to do so. They don't know if John is really a criminal or not, they just doing their job. John knows that the system is corrupted because he knews he is not a murder, but its hard for him to do so. It's hard for John to convince the cops of his innonce because their are so used to the system; the cops don't give people time to state their case, they just arrest them. If the pre-cogs see it then they automatically think that they are and somebody is a victim of murder. But even the pre-cogs aren't always right. That's what John was trying to prove, so he went through all that trouble to find his minority report to prove that the pre-cogs are wrong. He has been set up.
DeleteI agree with the fact that the cops wanted to arrest John because it's their job. The only set back is that the cops aren't aware that the pre cogs aren't always right because the pre-crime's have always come true n the past. The cops wouldn't be aware that the pre cogs would have a disagreement because maybe someone didn't go through with the killing an it changed the outcome of their future because they made a better choice. The cops are just focused on making one more simple arrest from the pre-crime, that they don't want to hear nothing that John has to say about the pre-crime. The cops aren't aware that he's being set up, so he goes through a world of trouble trying to show his innocence to the cops but they aren't trying to side with him. After they see the pre-crime they go an make the arrest with no questions an they have put innocent people away. But do you think john would have done all of that if he wouldn't have seen that he was going to commit the crime?
DeleteAlvin -- good question but there are many grammatical errors and phrases in your response that don't make sense or support your claim. 11/15
DeleteBaleegh -- good addition to the question/clarification of Alvin's point 13/15
Micha'elle, Tahquan, & Itiyah -- these responses make sense and your analysis is correct, but they don't add much additional information to the discussion 12/15
The pre-crime cops and the rest of the country do not know that minority reports exist so as far as they know they are doing the right thing and there is noting else to understand about it. The reason why arresting John is so important is for the simple reason that if he revels that the minority report exist and show that their system is flawed then the country could possibly run into a chaotic problem. Therefore causing there society to no longer be a utopia and become a dystopia.
ReplyDeleteTheir society is already a dystopia. Be more specific in your analysis than phrases like, "chaotic problem." What exactly would the problem be? 12/15
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ReplyDeleteWhile watching the film Minority Report I noticed that it might be thought of more as a dystopia due to the fact that it takes away members of societies free will. They do not allow the members of society to have an option as to whether or not they will murder someone or not. They just automatically assume that because their is a vision of the crime someone can not fight the urge. I also have noticed that the setting in Minority Report is quite dull and gloomy.The Minority Report setting is just another sign that it is a dystopia rather than utopia.
You could have gone into more detail about why the society was dull and gloomy. 13/15
DeleteWhat does the movie minority report tell about the morals of the character John Anderton?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the movie Minority Report shows that morally John Anderton is quite hypocritical and in the end cares mainly about himself. In the beginning John was for the system when he was the cop chasing the criminals yet the minute he became a criminal himself he decided that the system must be flawed. For instance, in the beginning when the detective tried to question John and his partners about the flaws within the system arresting those who don't actually commit crimes John becomes very defensive. He rolls a ball down a tube and the detective goes to catch it. He asks the detective why he went to catch it and the detective then states that it would've fallen. John asks if he's sure of it and the detective states that he is sure. john then goes to prove his theory that people will murder regardless of their company stopping them. John takes much pride in the system and company he works for and has no doubts about it. However, when John Anderton sees his name in the system as a killer, he goes against the same system he was so much for. John does on the run, changes his eyes, and does like most living things in the world. He fights for his " own survival" instead of the safety of everyone else.
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ReplyDeleteIn the movie Minority Report the main character John Anderton is a pre-crime cop. This meaning that his team of cops get a prediction from three people showing them a murder that will hapen in the future. The cops get the image and the name of the suspect and victim. Then they use all these things to find the murder and try to stop it before it happens. This is one part of the Dystopia. It is because this type of system doesnt allow free-will or the chance for people to choose their own choices. By the cops stoping them their making the choicr them, even though the system is perfect it does have the flaw of human error. All the questions of "what if" come to mind because if the humans or the people who predict the murders get it wrong they may send an innocent person to jail. This is what the cop John Andertson is trying to find out
This response is very similar to Briona's. Try and add on another example from the film to prove her analysis -- don't use the same example about choice. 12/15
DeleteIs this a moral way of life?
ReplyDeleteIn the movie Minority Report there have been many cases of violation when it comes to a persons free will. Police officers have figure out a way to see the future murders that people will commit. Officers will arrest them before they even commit the crime, people haven day on weather or not they will or will not commit the crime. This is not a moral way of life due to the fact that the officers have taken the concuss decision that people make if dong right from wrong.
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DeleteWhat was Lamar's motivation for setting up John Anderton ?
ReplyDeleteLamar set up John Anderton because Lamar knew that John knew that Lamar killed Agatha's mother Ann Lively. Lamar murdered Ann Lively because she wanted her daughter and because Agatha was being used against her own will for the pre-crime system that Lamar started. It's ironic that Lamar murdered somebody for the pre-crime system because the system was used to catch potential murderers before they commit their crime. John Anderton and everyone was naive to the fact that Lamar killed someone , that he was setting up and fooling everyone.
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DeleteShould "Minority Report " be consider as perfection ?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, no world will ever be perfect. Sometimes trying to make something perfect leads to it being unstable and over the top. When it comes to Minority Report, this world the characters live in is not really perfect after all. Even the agents make their own mistakes like John Anderton. In the film it shows how Agatha is showing John his future and how he will soon be arrested for committing a crime . A crime that one of his fellow co-workers might of have set up. Therefore, this "Utopia" is not really a Utopia. They have the people that created the laws to make things perfect breaking them. They are backstabbing friends like John and making suffer for something he didn't do. No such Utopia will have such thing occur in their country.
Proofread for grammar and spelling errors. Good focused response otherwise. 13/15
DeleteIn the film i noticed how the police were expected to read your rights before taking you to prison just like in our world. Also that they have three sets of bodies to tell the future of when something bad was going to happen or if someone was attempting to commit a crime they wasn't allow to. Not to mention, how through out the movie must of their files, or any type of information was mostly hold through technology and not paper. Peoples eyes were use as an identity finder.
ReplyDeleteNo clear claim. Restating random details from the film. 9/15
DeleteWhen watching the movie "Minority Report" starring Tom Cruise, I noticed how the movie was based on a facade utopia that was really a dystopia for the people living there. In the movie, a system was created to help to look into pre-crime and finding a solution to the increase in homicide which contributes to the utopia of a place with no violence or crime, but all that changes when people soon realize what would happen if they were arrested for a crime that they weren't capable of doing, which contributes to the dystopia of a place where people are wrongly accused.
ReplyDeleteDiscussion Question: Why do you think that in the movie "Minority Report" the woman protocon was chosen as the most gifted one of the two male protocons?
I think the reason why this movie made the woman protocon the most gifted of all the other protocons is because, I think that because it was a woman who actually created the pre-crime system and had the power to control the future she wanted to also place a woman with that kind of power. In this case Agatha was the one with that power. I also think it's because in a lot of movies their is also perspectives that are brought up like sexism. For example the sexism comes up when people think that women are probably smarter than men which is shown in this movie with Agatha being more gifter than the male protocons.
The last sentence in your first paragraph is a major run-on. Break up into 3 - 4 separate phrases. Proofread for this and other spelling errors. You also don't adequately develop your point about sexism. 11/15
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ReplyDeleteA discussion question that I have is what makes the setting that the movie takes place in a dystopia?
What I believe makes the setting a dystopia is the fact that the pre crime system nearly takes away ones free will.the prec crime basically prevents somone from commiting a crime by catching them before they do it. They use pre cogs which can see the future and see murder before it happens the police will come and arrest the person before they do it.the persons free will is being taken away because they do not even get the chance to change their fate they are just automatically sent to jail. This is a chararistic of a dystopian place because the government seems to always watch the civilians.
Proofread and use proper punctuation. 13/15
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ReplyDeleteShould those with minority reports be released from precrime prison ?
People that were arrested that have minority reports should be released. In the film, the 3 precogs see future murders. On occasion, one precognitive will see an alternate version other than what the other two see. This is called a minority report. The minority report could show the individual not committing the murder at all. This is an important piece to the puzzle. If there is a chance that the person won't commit the murder, them they shouldn't be haloed & should be released.
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DeleteAre people fairy treated after being arrested for a precrime?
ReplyDeletePeople arrested for precrimes are not fairly treated. Being arrested for a crime that you haven't committed yet is wrong. The way the government handles these situations in the movie are immoral. The government arrests people for a crime they have not committed for the rest of their life. The precog can see a murder before it happens and predicts it 36 hours before it's actual occasion. The government finds the person and imprisons that person for the rest of their life. Instead of incarcerating the people for the rest of their lives, they could at least place the person in jail for 48 to ensure they don't come into contact with the person they are supposed to kill. The crime will be prevented, so the person doesn't need to be in jail for the rest of their life. Thus, the people accused of precrimes in Minority Report are not treated fairly.
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DeleteI disagree. I think that the people are fairly treated after being arrested for a precrime. Just because they have not committed the crime yet, does not change the fact that they would have still committed the crime 36 hours later had the police not stopped them. This system is very useful and it saves lives. After all, we are talking about MURDER...not just any petty crime. The people being arrested are premeditated killers. The crime they commit were not accidents, they were acts of anger and aggression. Therefore, they are treated fairly after being arrest for a precrime. They do not need to be with the rest of the civilized public if they cannot control their emotions.
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Good job playing devil's advocate. 15/15
DeleteWithin the first scene, we witness the murder of a woman who was caught cheating on her husband. We also see that the Pre-Crime unit intervines, using their pre-knowledge of the crime, and punishes the man who Thomas Reid would describe as having a "short fit of madness". In this dystopian society, all offenders are punished the same. Would society today be accepting of a common ground or ONE standard for punishment of all for a variety of offenses?
ReplyDeleteToday's society would only be accepting of a standard punishment if it was the maximum punishment. I am very certain that the Government would much rather over-punish petty offenders than risk under-punishing those who would otherwise receive life sentences or be put on death row. I think there should be two different standards for punishment, and two different categories for each kind of criminal act. There will be the Petty Crimes and the antithetic, Large Offenses. Petty Crimes would be: Possession, Bullying, Theft, loitering, etc; whereas the Large Offenses would be more like: Murder, Mass Homocide, Assault of any kind, Frivoulous/senseless acts of violence, etc. and each will have two different standards. The standard punishment for Petty Crimes would vary between a maximum sentence of 1 year, or up to 120 hours of community service. The standard for Large Offenses would vary between a maximum sentence of life in prison, and a minimum sentence of 5 years in prison.
Such a thoughtful and high level question! Well argued. 15/15
DeleteQuestion: Do you think that Pre-crime is better than the police system used in the United States?
ReplyDeleteAnswer: I think that the police system used in the film Minority Report should not be used within our world because even though it stops serious crimes from happening, it is not fair because of the fact that the person committed for doing the precrime is not allowed a trial as a way to plead their innocence. For example, when John Anderson, the main character had got arrested, he was not given a trial to plead his case because of the fact that the precrime vehemently believed that the precogs visions was so accurate that a trial was not needed. This would not be good for our society in America because in our world people are allowed to a trial to prove their innocence for a crime they did/ or did not commit. Meaning that if a precog in our had a vision one was to kill someone else, and that person was not to do the crime, that person would still go to jail, which is not fair at all.
I would like to disagree with Chantel because I think that the pre-crime system used in "Minority Report" is better that the police system currently used today. The Pre-Crime system was the future police department; and it consisted of 3 pre-cogs predicting future murders.With the pre-cogs premonition officers were able to get the victim that was going to be killed and the killer's name. For example, the pre-cogs had a vision and saw that woman was cheating on her husband, and the husband found out and stabbed the wife to death using scissors. John saw the same premonition that the pre-cogs saw and prevented the murder. In conclusion, if the American government implemented pre-crime a lot of murders can be prevented and lives can be saved.
DeleteChantel: good question and argument to back up your opinion. 14/15
DeleteJasmine: good counter argument 14/15
is having precrimes in there world better then the normal crimes in our world today?
ReplyDeleteIn this film there were cops that was allowed too see crimes before it actually happens.That way they can be able to show up at the right time in order to catch the right person.These crimes are way better then the nromal ones thats occuring in the world today because the person who commited that crime can most likely not be find. They can be on the run and now the cops have to put on a search. In this movie they were allowed to see who was the victim was , where was they at , etc. There world is different from ours but they way they solve crimes is not that bad. Even though alot of people may not agree. I be;ieve that they way they figured out these crimes are very heplful for the safety of people . I believe that precrimes is a better way to areest people. Although they didnt commit the crime yet there intentions is to do something wrong. So why not catch them before something bad happens ?
Major errors in spelling and grammar. I would advise you to complete your blogposts in office hours so I can help you proofread and edit before submitting. 10/15
DeleteIs this a rational way for the government to stop crimes?
ReplyDeleteWell, I think it is not a rational way for the government to stop crimes because the pre-crime agency only sees what will happen if a person continues to make the decisions leading up to the crimes, not what actually happens if the person chooses a different path. The precots have no guarantee that the person in the vision will actually decided whether they are going to commit the crime. For example, in "Minority Report", John Anderston was seen in a vision killing a man who "supposedly" kidnapped and killed is son. Anderston did not kill the man, at first he was going to but learning that he did not kidnap and kill his son and it was a setup, the man killed himself. They arrested John for the murder of the man, which he did not do. The pregots see what will happen if the person makes the decision. But when John was about to kill him before finding out it was a setup, the precot says to him that he has a choice to kill him or not. I think its just a coincidence that the progots are right. Everyone has an agenda and everyone can choose at the last minute that they do not want to commit the crime, just like John Anderston changed his mind at the last minute. Therefore, this is not a rational way for stopping crime because precrime only sees what they are planning to do, not what they actually do and I just think anyone can change their mind at any moment.
PRECOGS! You all are coming up with hilariously incorrect names for these 3 characters. Otherwise good post. 13/15
DeleteThe world of Minority Report is a dystopian future. It's a work gone badly. The use of the new drug Neuroine leading to great harm.How does this play out as a film about our mood as a country?
ReplyDeleteI think the film plays out as obstruct, because so many bad things happened before the pre-crims. Which made them want to stop anything like murder from happening. In the film it talks about how the drug Neuroine killed a bunch of people except three of the pre-crims which gave them a chance to take advantage of the fact that they were able to stop murders before they happened by seeing the future. The only problem about that is that they didn't know that 1% out of 99% of the future wouldn't had happened, so the people they took away for attempted murder wouldn't had even committed the crime of murder.
You raise some very interesting and high level ideas in this post but they aren't very clear or developed enough for the reader to understand your point. The errors in spelling, grammar and omission of words make this response difficult to understand. 11/15
DeleteI disagree with Jasmine because I think the police system today is better then the pre-crimes systems used in the movie "Minority Report". The reason I say this is because in the movie their keeping three perfectly humans that's alive in water for their own personal gain to me. In the movie one of the pre-cogs said "I'm tired of this" which makes me think that it doesn't seem like they asked to do this job and when they tell the future the pre-crimes system don't ask questions to the people that's about to commit the murder they just put them to sleep and leave them. When 1% of the time the pre-cogs disagree on if the murder will even happen or not which makes the pre-crimes system put people away without knowing if they will go through with the murder. However, the police system today would let the person go through a whole system to find out if their guilty or not.
ReplyDeleteGood response and explanation of your reasoning. Watch out for typos! 13/15
DeleteIn the film named "Minority Report", I noticed that the cops in the movie were able to do some of the things that present day society cops can't. The cops in "Minority Report" are able to stop the crime and violence in their community before they actually happen. They are able to do this with the help of three people who grew up with mental disabilities. These three people are called pre-coc's, but they have a special power. They can see the future before anyone else can. They see crimes before it happens and are able to notify the pre-crime cops of the situation. The world that the characters in the movie live in is special because they can live in peace and be free from violence.
ReplyDeleteYour claim is unclear. This is a basic summary of the film but doesn't argue a thoughtful claim. 12/15
DeleteWould you consider our society a dystopia ?
ReplyDeleteI would consider the world that we live in to be a dystopia because our society meets a lot of the criteria of being a dystopia. An illusion of a perfect utopian world "america the greatest nation in the world , america is often seen as one of the best places to live but it is filthy with poverty, crime , drugs and corruption. Constant surveillance, the government has access to every text every phone call and every post that we have ever made they clam that they watch for early indicators of terrorist but even so we are being watched more then ever. Citizens conform to uniform expectations, individuality is not illegal but its not the norm we as citizens shun any one and anything that is different then what we think we know and have come to accept. Propaganda/ fear of the out side world, after 911 we have been forced to believe in a war on terror, invading other country's under false pretenses of weapons and staying in the country's after rumors have been proven wrong, we are forced to believe that terrorist want war with america when our troops are terrorizing other country's. In a documentary called dirty wars a news van was shoot at from the sky in iran by american troops, where was a child in the van when this became clear the troop said "they should have known better then to enter a war zone with children" dose not sound like a war on terror. America is a dystopia
Very thoughtful post.
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DeleteIs a person still guilty if they didn't commit the crime yet?
ReplyDeleteFrom the movie, people were guilty because of a crime that they were going to commit in the future, however this does not make them guilty before they commit the crime. Everything starts with an idea and idea's can change within a matter of seconds. When people were informed about a crime that was about to happen in the movie, they did everything to appear at the scene of the crime. The crime was stopped and thus never happened, thus the person who was about to commit the crime ,never actually committed any crimes.
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DeleteDo you think that pre crime is morally correct?
ReplyDeleteI think that it was not morally correct. I say this because to me it is morally messed up for people to be put to jail just because there was a vision. In the movie he gets angry at the creator of Pre-Crime because she tells him that there is a possibility that he put innocent people in jail. This shows that the pre crime system is not perfect and that pre crime is also a morally corrupt system.
This point has been made already. Bring in original analysis for a higher grade. 12/15
DeleteThe film "Minority Report" would be an example of a distopian society because their society is technologically controlled through its system of pre-crime. The system is used to prevent crimes before they happen through the use of robots and computers. For instance, in the beginning of the film was a cheating wife of a married couple that was about to be murdered by her husband, but because of the pre-crime system they were able to arrest him before he committed the crime. The system is also a problem because being that they stopped the crime before it happen they still arrest the person and charge them of murder.
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DeleteDo you think people with Minority reports should get another chance ?
ReplyDeleteIn the film "Minority Report" many people were put in jail for committing pre-crimes, but some had reasons for what they did to end up in jail. The system is used to prevent crimes before they happen, so if the crime didn't happen yet people shouldn't be put in jail. Another reason why people with minority reports should get another chance is because they had serious reasons for why they were about to commit the crime. For example, when the white dude walked in on his wife having sex with another man, then he stabbed them both. This shows he had the right to commit that crime because his wife was cheating on him in there house and then tried to lie about the situation when he seen the whole thing. I feel that the white men should have been let free because if his wife didn't cheat on him, then he wouldn't have killed anyone. He had a real reason as to why he committed a pre-crime. The system is morally corrupt because some innocent people are placed in jail, and spends the rest of their life in prison for a crime they didn't commit.
Woah! Just because someone cheats doesn't mean that their spouse has a right to murder
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DeleteOnce we know our future is it possible to change it ?
ReplyDeleteOnce we know our future we cannot change it no matter how hard we try. The future is our fate. Our fate has already been determined for us, even if we think we have a choice we don't. Agnes told John Anderton his future, and even though he thought he had a chance to change it, he couldn't. He thought that he could just walk away from his future of killing Crow but it was Crow's fate to die. So once we know our fate, it is not possible for us to change it. If it were possible for us to change our future once we knew what was destined to happen, John would have prevented the killing of Crow.
In the film "Minority Report" a Utopian society is depicted throughout the disciplinary system and police force tackling problems at their source. Do you think by seeing people's actions and stopping them from committing the act before they do it is a great idea for a society overall or not ?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I do think that stopping a seeing a crime and being able to stop it before it happens is a great idea to keep a society at peace and in order. Therefore , tons of murders can be prevented unless you kill yourself. In the film "Minority Report" there was a man whose wife was cheating on him with another guy thinking that he went to work already, but he was still in the house and when he caught the two having sexual relations with each other he was about to kill his wife by stabbing her with a knife. Luckily for the Pre-cog being able to see the event before it happened , they were able to save the woman's life and also arrest both the husband and wife. She was arrested for cheating and he was arrested for almost killing her for cheating. In conclusion, all of this to that knowing what a person will do before they do it helps. The Pre-cog isn't constantly watching over you , you only come into part when you are about to commit a murder. This helps society because death rates decrease.
Does the Utopia in Minority Report offer free will to the people?, and if yes give an example.
ReplyDeleteIf we observe the movie minority report we can see that the only threat to this society is crime and precrime because crime can happen any moment, and a robbery or murder an take place within minutes. However, one can make the choice of not committing an offense in the real world. In other words one can change what happens to him or her. In the film John Anderton decides to make the choice of not committing the crime that the pre-cogs had a vision of. This shows that the precrime system is an unsuccessful program, because it constraints civilians from making the right or wrong choice.
Explanation confusing and claim unfocused. 12/15
DeleteShould Pre-Crime be considered a perfect system?
ReplyDeleteNo, pre-crime should not be considered a perfect system because, ones self has a choice to change the outcome of their situation and faith. In the film, "Minority Report", pre-crime are stopping furture crimes from happening by using a method called pre-clause. People who can see into the future and only see murders happening but, this method ones proven broken when Lamar decided to take his own life instead of taking John's. Which the pre-clause saw Lamar shooting John instead of his self. This proves that the pre-crime system isn't perfect.
Pre-Crime should not be considered a perfect system because there are innocent people that were sent to jail without killing someone. In the movie , there were three pre-cogs who can see the future of a murder scene that's going to happen. The police and other security agents then would report to the crime scene to stop the murder from happening. In the beginning of the movie, the pre-cogs saw a man killing his wife and another man, but the security arrived there before he could do it. The police then told him he was charged with future murder. The problem with this is the man probably wouldn't have stabbed his wife and the man. He could have handled the situation in a different way besides killing them, but because the police saw what pre-cogs suspected, the man was charged with murder. This makes the pre-crime system not perfect because the pre-cogs are not technically correct and people don't have the chance to prove themselves as innocent.
DeleteThis question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. Mahdee: 11/15, Shaakirah 12/15
DeleteDrugs was a main motif in the movie, " Minority Report". Do you think the main reason the precogs was daily drugged, is because the creator of the program Lamar didn't want them to revolt against the program?
ReplyDeleteI think the answer is yes because the drugs they used constantly made them numb and unaware of their surroundings. To clarify, everyday the caretaker will drug them and that causes the precogs to only focus on predicting murders. They were unaware of feelings, thoughts, and communication. Causing the precogs to always be in a numb state. In the movie, after John Anderton captured the girl precog Agatha, once her drugs wore off she was finally conscious of the society around her. In this state, she was able to give clear advice to John about choices a thing she could never do before while drugged. Showing how Lamar used drugs against the precogs in order to stop them for having any feelings, so they won't go against the program. In the drugged state they were in, they were more like unhuman and treated like work animals. If they wasn't ever drug, Lamar knows they will have clear thoughts and feelings and wouldn't want to work for the program. So in order to keep them in his control he had to drug them.
Interesting original post. 14/15
DeleteNow that John is considered a murderer to the Pre-crime system does he believe it's fair ?
ReplyDeleteIn the movie Minority Report John Anderton was the chief on the pre-crime system where people who are attempting a crime is arrested. Throughout the movie John has been found to be one of the people who were going to commit a crime. John's team considers john to be a killer and he has to hide now knowing that he does not know the person that he has killed and he is innocent. John is on a trial to prove to the pre- crime system that they have the wrong man and he refuses to be arrested. After John has arrested many people who did not kill the person but just because they have intentions , John begin to realize that some the people he arrested was innocence as he claims when he are in their shoes. John finds out that the pre-crime system may stop people are guilty for wanting to do the crime but if they are stop from doing the crime how can they be really guilty ? John feels as though he is only guilty by association.
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DeleteWhat is one of the cons of pre-crime in this dystopian society ?
ReplyDeleteOne of the cons of pre-crime is that it only shows the potential future. Many innocent people are being committed of a crime that they may or may not commit. One of the ways pre-crime is determined is by a person's emotion at the moment of the future crime. In the film, "Minority Report" it was a scene where the main character seen that a person was trial for a murder that he was not really going to commit in the future. Pre-crime negatively affects this society. It stops killings but it also sends away innocent people.
This claim has been made before. Introduce original argument or new evidence for full credit. 12/15
DeleteDiscussion question: Do you think a utopia world limits people's freedom?
ReplyDeleteIn the movie "Minority Report", it is clear that individual's freedom is limited due to the fact that they are being watched 24/7. What I mean by that is, in the movie, everyone eye is scanned everywhere they go, such as when they go to the mall, on the bus, walking in store and other places in the world. Everything in this movie uses high technology where the people can easily be tracked down with the simple scan of their eyes. In the movie when John Anderton was trying to escape from the police/ government because of his future crime he was accused of, he couldn't escape them because of the fact cameras were everywhere to scan his eyes. So with that, he decides to get his eyes replaced. In the movie, he had stated "I need to get some new eyes so that I can escape from all this" (Anderton). From that, it proves that, in this utopia world, freedom is very limited because you can't do everything you want without being tracked. A utopia world is meant to prevent crime and danger, but it also limits freedom because of that fact individuals are being watched 24/7.
Aminah Keith
Thoughtful response, but it is confusing when you refer to it as a utopia, instead of a dystopia. 14/15
DeleteIn this movie "Minority Report" we as viewers watched a film that was basically a depiction of our future dystopia. In this dystopia the government had this justice system known as pre-crime. In pre-crime future murders are stop and these people who commit future murders are convicted.
ReplyDeleteIf children have thoughts about future murders can they be convicted for pre-crime also ? What is the age limit on pre-crime ?
Pre-crime is an awful system, but does this system include children. In the movie we didn't really get a chance to see if children could be convicted of pre-crime. I know that some children may have thoughts about killing people because they have certain issues with other children or even adults that may interact with. So if this awful system actually occurs than what should be the age limit. I think it should be 18 or older if I had to choose.
Proofread! Interesting question, but you could have developed your response further. 12/15
DeleteWhat does this movie reveal about knowing the future as a whole?
ReplyDeleteIn this movie, it reveals several things about knowing the future of others. Sometimes, when knowing a person's thoughts about what they may want to do, it may not be what they intended to do. For instance, John and his co-workers speak on how emotional actions are only done because of what someone is feeling at that very moment. This can be the case for the case 1108 when the man caught his wife cheating on him with another male. It can also be shown with John when he found the man who kidnapped and murdered his son when they were at a public swimming pool. Based upon this, it goes to shows to show that knowing a person's thinking process may be the wrong accusations because of the emotions that are going through their minds right now.
Make your claim more specific by stating the explicit message the movie delivers about the future. Explanations are somewhat unclear, a more focused claim/explanation would help. 12/15
DeleteAs we watched he movie in the first day I noticed that it was found morally corrupt to commit murder, but humans took it into their own hands to prevent people from making that choice. The Pre-crimes are seen before hand and prevented, while the "criminals" that were going to commit the crime are arrested and put away for the rest of their lives. Their is a man the catches his wife cheating on him and it is seen that he will kill his wife and the man she cheated with. the Pre-crime officers come in lead by John Anderton to stop the crime. I have to disagree with Briona Hawkins who above says that John is a hypocrite that only does what he does for selfish intentions. while I disagree with the system of pre-crime, I don't think that John is being selfish as he does his job. it is wrong to commit murder, but it is also wrong to jail someone that hasn't done anything wrong "yet".
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DeleteDo you this overall the Pre Crime system is accurate ? would you add something to make it better?
ReplyDeleteIn the movie "Minority Report" its showing how the government is trying to make the world a utopia when its actually a dystopia. In the movie there are three people in water that knows when a crime is going to happen in the future so the cops can go after them before they make a crime. I think the pre crime system is actuate despite the mistake that was made with John Anderton because it lowered the crime rate and it made people scared to think about committing a crime because as soon as you thought of committing a crime you would be locked up. But i think people should be able to go to court and not immediately placed in jail.
This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. 11/15
DeleteWhile watching the film "Minority Report" John Anderton (Tom Cruise) plays a role of a cop handling cases before they occur arresting victims of the crime.I have noticed that there is a lot of victims locked up more then it usually is after crimes. This movie reveals a lot of background from watching the first part of the movie i noticed this society is dystopia because all people use drugs often a lot.
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DeleteCan you live in a place where you are watched 24/7?
ReplyDeleteIn the movie "Minority Report" we watched in class a film that showed a dystopia and in this dystopia the government look at you everywhere you go and they keep a track of you, they have a system call the pre-crime where they know when someone is about to kill someone else. Pre-crim is a great system in my opinion because the area I have grown up in would be very helpful and the crime rate will increase majorly, it would be more helpful for children because in the movie John Anderton lost his son because someone had killed him, so this system came into place so things like this would not happen. I would not mind being watched 24/7 because its keeping me safe and the people around me safe as well because in Newark most kids don't live to see their adult lives and with the pre-crime system the crime rate will decrease.
Proofread. This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. 11/15
DeleteI do believe if Newark came up with the same system minority report has there would be less killings because everyone would know that the government is watching their every move. In the movie there was a system named the pre crime system in which the government would know if somebody is about to be murdered before it happened. If this system was in Newark the amount of homicides would decrease because people would not want to be in trouble and they would not like the consequences that come with them committing a crime. In the pre crime system the people who were committing the crimes were basically killed. In Newark most of the time the killers are not caught which is not fair to the victims and the victims' family. In this new system people would be afraid of being put to death or the consequences of being caught so the amount of murders will decrease.
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ReplyDeleteIs pre- crime the best system to put people in jail?
Pre-crime is not the best system to put people in jail. Pre-crime is when the police department can dectect a murder before it is actually committed. I think it does a good job at saving people lives, but i think that not even one is going to committ the murder. For example the main character is accused of committing a future murder which he hasnt done yet. Or one that he may not do at all. But because its pre crime they try to put him in jail. I think its unfair because a person can change they mind at the last mintue. 5 seconds before the crime they could change their mind. Also the person doesnt even know they are going to murder someone. So how can you blame someonefor their lack of knowledge of the crime. The system has its good points, but also its faults because it not equally fair. Thats why pre-crime is not the best idea for putting people in jail.
This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. 11/15
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ReplyDeleteAre there any motifs in Minority Report ?
In the movie Minority Report, a motif conveyed is Drugs. The use of drugs is proliferated throughout the entire movie. In the Utopian world, constantly monitored by the government, drugs are heavily used. For example, in the movie, the PreCogs are given heavy duty drugs to sedate them. The drugs help stabilize the mind and the body. For example, John Anderton constantly uses drugs to remain sane. The drugs act as an outlet for the pain he experiences. The drugs lift barriers, or burdens off the peoples's shoulders. Therefore the motif conveyed in the movie is drugs.
Good job pushing yourself to analyze higher level literary elements like motif. You could have developed this a little more by discussing more than one motif. 13/15
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ReplyDeleteQuestion : should the president jeopardize not killing john to prove that precrime isn't accurate or should he kill him & be arrested?
The president shouldn't kill because the video of him murdering the pre-cog's mother has already been exposed for the world to see. The pre-crime system is simply a way for him to take over. In the movie every time he punishes someone, it has to do with taking their full control of their thoughts and whole body in general. For example, after suspects are caught, he puts them in a tube with a device attached to their heads, and also he has a device attached to the pre-cog's head to their visions. This shows a symbol of full control and power. He is aware that the system is benefitting him because he's taking away the intelligence of others, the only thing he has to fear.
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ReplyDeleteIn the film Minority report I noticed that the society was based on a Dystopia because the people were not able to commit crime even if they thought about they were sent to prison. My question towards the movie Minority report is, If the main character John Anderton proves that the system is false what will happen to the prisoners?
If John Anderton proves that the system is false I feel as though all the prisoners should be able to leave. I said this because in the film Minority report John Anderton is a cop and his job is to prevent crime from happening in the future, so if a person is thinking about attempting to do violence he has to stop them before it's too late. Sometimes this rule/ procedure can be unfair because the person at the time is innocent but at the same time they're guilty since they were thinking about attempting to do murder, but if the system is false then all prisoners should be released.
This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. 12/15
DeleteMILAN B:
ReplyDeleteQuestion: What kind of people do you think the government chooses to be precalcs?
I think that they choose people who have been through struggle and have witness murder or have seen murders. The precalcs once didn't want other murders to happen after going through a loss in their life, so they choose people who can see them before they happen. In the movie, they were talking about echoes that the precalcs have. When they have echoes, they start to have a panic attack and the lab technician has to erase them so they won't feel pain while they are unconscious. If they have a panic attack through echoes, then maybe they are feeling the pain that they felt when they went through a loss but the pain is worse because they are seeing another murder or crime. Therefore, the precalcs could be people who have been through the pain of losing g someone through a crime
Interesting speculation, but the answer to your question is revealed in the film. They were the children of drug addicts born with brain damage. 11/15
DeletePre-crime is not a good way to solving the crime rate problem the world has. while pre-crime is a good idea and very helpful to dropping the crime rate ,it punishes people for crimes they intended to commit,yet where stopped before it could happen. in the movie the team uses different tactics to prevent crimes from happening .they stop the criminals before they do the act, but still charge them even though in reality they have not yet done the crime. this would not work in the world today because this would not be fair. people would be getting arrested for crimes they were going to do and for crimes they did do. for example there is a man who actually murders someone. the lawful thing to do is arrest him, but when a person is stopped before the crime is made they are still convicted. people should only be arrested and changed if the crime is fully pulled through.
ReplyDelete-An-Nisa Jones
This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. Grammar/spelling errors. 11/15
Deleteshould the fate of someones life be determined simply by the 3 precalcs ?
ReplyDeletethe fate of someone should not be determined by the 3 precalcs. in the movie the lady who created pre-crime revealed that sometimes the precalcs can be wrong. she says that two of the three see one vision while the third see something else. this means that precime works 2/3 times which means that people that were seen doing these crimes and arrested could have not done the crime in the end and not been arrested but now are. people who are now spending the rest of their lives locked away could have not done the crime. they could have simply thought about doing the crime and been convicted. precrime does not always work because it is not always accurate.
-An-Nisa Jones
This question has been debated already on this blog. Not very original. 11/15
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ReplyDeleteWhy was it unnoticeable when the older man killed Agatha’s mother?
The older man was in charge of the pre-crime video screenings. He knew what was already predicted by one of the pre-cogs to happen therefore used that as an advantage. He needed Agatha for his dystopian society so his solution was to stop her mother through murdering her in order to be able to keep Agatha without any problems. A question that arises from this situation is how were the other pre-cogs made pre-cogs? Did the parents have any say in that decision? Having the ability to predict future crimes and through that be able to arrest people made Agatha and the other pre-cogs desirable. The old man didn’t expect to get caught by simple analyzation of the movement of waves. When one of the characters realized the truth he was also murdered by the older man. Another question that comes to mind is that how did the pre-cogs not predict that characters murder?
Good summary of Lamar's motivation. 14/15
DeleteTYIEHSA:
ReplyDeleteIn the movie, Minority Report, the citizens of that dystopia doesn't have as much free will as they possibly could. They had this thing called pre-cods that determined what crime was going to happen. The pre-cods shouldn't have been depended on. In the scene of Lamar doing a murder, he was supposed to kill John Anderton, but he did otherwise and killed himself. This was to show that the PreCrime system that they had was all wrong. The pre-cods should've just been labelled as possible future predictors rather than the actual thing. Overall, in Minority Report, the Pre-Cods have only been made to show that the future can't always be told or true to what is supposed to "happen".
I'm not sure if you explanation fully supports your claim. Mostly you are talking about the precogs's predictions being wrong which doesn't probe that people don't have free will. 11/15
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